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  TulliusCicero
  It's pretty obvious what's happening here.The response needs to be forceful: seize and auction off the ships. There needs to be sufficient deterrent to actually stop this from happening.
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  Animats
  That narrow passage is becoming a war zone. Look at a map. It's one of Russia's few outlets to the sea. Look at the history of Russia vs. Finland and Russia vs. Estonia. This is one of the world's most hostile choke points.
• deliciousturkey
  The fact that this area where the incident happened, Gulf of Finland, is not fully part Finnish/Estonian territorial waters, is only because of a bilateral Finnish-Estonian agreement. This was done in the 1990's purely for benevolence towards Russia.Russia clearly hasn't acted in such way that they should enjoy these kinds of acts of benevolence. Finland and Estonia should seriously consider retreating from this agreement.
• fn-mote
  With 10 undersea cables damaged in the Baltic 2023-2025, it’s obvious a different part of the government needs to become involved. Acting for your national security doesn’t need to (shouldn’t) mean there is no trial.
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  internet2000
  Don't even need to click to know it's the Russians.
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  Fairburn
  Lock em up, sell thier property. Rinse and repeat.
• HelloUsername
  Related, posted a day agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46445484https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46443925
• greesil
  Mine the Gulf of Finland, problem solved. This may create other problems but hey Finland is part of NATO now.
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  iambateman
  Assuming it is state-sponsored sabotage…why? Whats the outcome they want? Is it just turning up the heat in the region?
• lysace
  Two other cable cuts/"damages" happened around the same dates. Two separate Arelion-owned cables between Sweden/Estonia and Finland/Estonia.https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/JOow58/kabelbrott-mella... (Swedish)[...] two of their submarine cables – one between Sweden and Estonia and one between Estonia and Finland – have been damaged. The first cable was damaged on December 30th and the second on December 31st.(Arelion is AS1299/formerly known as Telia Carrier. The name change happened because it's now owned by a Swedish government-managed infrastructure-focused pension fund.)
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  shmerl
  There needs to be a blockade for these rogue ships. That's the only thing they'll understand, short of being sunk.
• fennecbutt
  Just like Trump's tariff bs, I'm starting to think that for Putin's M.O. that we should be fighting fire with fire.Why not send a couple ships to drag anchors across Russia's cables? "Oh we are but innocent fishermen" is still valid going the other way.Then when Russia inevitably seizes and imprisons the crew, the international community can do the same for every Russian controlled ship with the bare minimum of suspicion.Would be a pretty sucky mission though, so many risks of capture. But the Russian government does it because they don't care about their people and also the rest of the world is too toothless to do anything about it (until this occurrence at least, go Finland - but then they know Russia's tactics very well).Russia has been doing a "stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself" to the world for too long, abusing the "nice" way we desperately try to see things, pretending even when it's obvious. Like they'll do something egregious and then when the West calls them out, suddenly their political mouthpieces are all "we can't believe that the West is making this shocking and provocative accusation which is of course completely false, EU are bullies!" and then the world responds by taking a step back, pretty much every single time.
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  coffinbirth
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  neuroelectron
  It sounds like the court will just throw it out again as not having jurisdiction over the case.
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  csmpltn
  It honestly starts to sound like they just botched the design and placement of these cables - placing them in shallow and exposed passages, with no proper defense against dragged anchors.