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Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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  • falaki
    Fortunately, the government cannot enforce complete blackout because thousands of startlink terminals are active inside the country. They have been complaining about it [1] to no avail. Using these terminals activists and journalists continue to upload videos of demonstrations to social media which has enabled analyses that show demonstrations are very wide spread [2] and continue to grow.[1] https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-R/conferences/RRB/Pages/Starlink....[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cre28d2j2zxo
  • labanimalster
    The discussion about Starlink is interesting, but with only ~0.1% of the population having access, the real story is the 99.9% who are cut off right now. The asymmetry between those who can broadcast to the world and those who can't is staggering — and even among that 0.1%, many are too afraid to broadcast anything, knowing the risks.
  • uyzstvqs
    Can't wait for a certain dictator to get a cellmate, so that our Persian and Kurdish friends can have freedom, including free unrestricted internet access.And for fellow HN users from there, here's some great stuff: https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/ https://bitchat.free/
  • TechSquidTV
    Government enacted shut down due to protests. I'd like to hear more about how they actually do this. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-cutting-internet-amid-dead...
  • breppp
  • cimi_
    Not specific to this IPv6 event, but I was wondering what happens to public services during these Internet shutdowns?Does everything stop or it's mostly business as usual minus some things?I would imagine hospitals, tax offices etc need the internet to work?
  • jrochkind1
    I remember reading about how Venezuela had an internet blackout preceding US attack, presumably the blackout was an attack by US "cyber". Ah, here we are. https://securitybrief.co.uk/story/us-cyber-attack-on-venezue...The discussion here assumes that the Iranian government is responsible for this blackout. I actually don't understand enough about network routing to undestand the OP dashboard linked to or be able to answer this question, but could it instead be the work of an opponent preparing to attack Iran?
  • helloaltalt
    marcosdumay's comment of here explained situation (giving it more attention)they can censor IPv4 when they want, but they don't know how to censor IPv6. So they block it entirely.This is the reason why they aren't blacking out IPv4From my own experience, my ex gf was iranian. She was using discord via some psiphon vpn or something iirc idk how she got access to it but she had it.I didn't trust psiphon that much so I asked her to install proton vpn and it did work. I wanted to play minecraft with her so prismlauncher but resources couldn't be downloaded so I made her download protonvpn so that she can play minecraft with me/install it (piracy was forced and also at that point necessary)She was using tlauncher which somehow worked but tlauncher was russian spyware and prism launcher was open sourceI talked to her about how she could use stablecoins crypto but crypto was illegal so ended up not suggesting it in the end to prevent inflation or talked to her about gold which is wild considering its like 3-4 months after we broke up but inflation is at 50% now.Anyways the point being that protonvpn worked and other vpn worked too.My question is, would things like protonvpn work after this blackout? I mean marco's and other comments in a thread explain to me that ipv4 can be blocked by them so I presume vpn's for ipv4 would shut down. And so vpns would most likely be using ipv6 which got blocked downSo does that mean that now Iranian people can't access vpns?I also saw the other day some video about how when people called Iranian numbers from outside countries some random AI robot ass voice called and asked who are you and who are you talking to? And gave pause, and the most logical explaination to it was that the govt was recording these things so dont say anything to them. It was a creepypasta video.Briar might help but Briar still leaks some metadata when I talked to their authors or heard about it online.Instagram isn't blocked in Iran so are these social media apps still there after the blackout?This raises so many questions and wtf is happening in the world
  • dgrin91
    Seems like v4s zeroed out for a tiny bit too, but even now they are substantially lower than normal. Odd behavior, I don't know if its a precursor to an attack or some infra issue
  • ChrisMarshallNY
    I just spent the better part of an hour, trying to track down anomalies, in one of my servers (Iran feeds us a lot of data), only to find DNS (IPv4) is not resolving. It worked fine, just a bit earlier.Ah, well...
  • OhMeadhbh
    Oh. Looks like they're not announcing V4 networks as well now.
  • AlessiaFiorella
    How many conspiracy theories can people suggest instead of accepting that peaceful Iranians want to live and not be concerned that they won't have water or food to eat
  • helloaltalt
    Quick question but would tor work in this case?Is this the first country which genuinely effectively is able to ban tor?Because even in China, tor can work through bridges or some other methods and even Chinese firewalls aren't so extreme as iran right now.Edit: forgot that north korea exists so I guess the second country but even in north korea there was this chinese interviewer or japanese interviewer who contacted people in north korea ig and those north koreans then interviewed for the first time completely uncensored north korea and it was brutal (a girl saying both her parents died and she was so so skinny i think) , they then went and smuggled the tapes from north korea to china and then to japan and then the company/production company or something blurred the peoples faces involved for anonymity.There's also this 1 steam connection in north korea so its just gonna be a mystery if we ever see a north korean person using a tor but I am 99% sure that it wont but north korea also got 1 steam connection so you never know.
  • gunalx
    Its for times like this briar or similar applications are super useful. Also memory sticks. To bad distributing is not to simple.
  • MantasPetraitis
    Free Iran from the terrorists
  • anthk
    Teredo/Miredo would work on top of IPV4.
  • amir734jj
    I'm an Iranian and this protest is very different because it's not about a specific government policy ... It's about the totality of the regime. Unfortunately, government has been following the same old brutal playbook by killing protesters and cutting off the Internet.
  • oncallthrow
    I sometimes feel like declaring a fatwa on IPv6 too, to be fair
  • 2OEH8eoCRo0
    We live in interesting times
  • jccx70
    Soon free Coca-Cola for Iran.
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  • anon
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  • weregiraffe
    A communications disruption could mean only one thing...
  • ronsor
    No competent network engineer wants to work in Iran, so government doesn't know how to block v6 properly. End result: just get rid of it entirely!
  • giancarlostoro
    Stuxnet v2? Speculation I know, but wow, IPv4 came back up, but IPv6 is completely out, looks like 48 million devices? Compared to IPv4's 47 thousand (wow that's insane).Looking at IPv6 its not 0 exactly, looks like probably censorship, only some devices allowed online? Some other comment mentioned there's calls to protest again today.