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European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams

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Comments (118)

  • yabones
    My team started using Matrix/Element after years of frustration with Teams and Slack. It's far from perfect, but using a simple application with no built-in ads, AI, bloat, crap, etc is wonderful.I really hope the EU throws some serious money at them to get the bugs worked out, add some minor features, and clean up the UX enough that an "office normie" can onboard as easily as MS.My dream is that Matrix can do for intra-org comms what Signal did for SMS.
  • uyzstvqs
    This does not bode well. Matrix is honestly not good, as someone who has tried to use it. It's slow, janky, often unstable, and poorly standardized.My suggestion: https://threema.com/en/products/work (hosted) or https://zulip.com/ (OSS self-hosted).
  • evanjrowley
    Related, the internall messenger for NATO also uses Matrix. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41781762
  • stock_toaster
    zulip seems to me like it would be a better solution to me (open source, self hostible, familiar paradigm, etc), but then again, I think _anything_ would be better than teams... so more power to them!
  • antirez
    It's incredible in the first place that companies want people use those kind of terrible and useless software, and that people accept using it.
  • simianwords
    I don’t know how Teams even got the approval to be released. It must be so embarrassing to be Satya and be forced to use this shitty piece of software.I can’t believe that software of this quality is used so widely. Market competitive forces are not able to do their thing unfortunately.
  • jackinthehat
    Defs worth a go, I'd say. Have tried it - still warming to it tbh
  • neom
    I'm surprised Mattermost doesn't get more love generally, it's fully oss isn't it? https://github.com/mattermost/mattermost
  • mhitza
    Can someone that uses Matrix compare it to Zulip? Which would have been my "obvious" choice.Is it functionally comparable, discussion threads and all? Or is it much closer to something like Discord?
  • heraldgeezer
    Teams takes like 4 min to boot on my work laptop.When they launched the "new" one they proudly showed the improved boot time...
  • kkfx
    The real issue is that there is no easy-to-self-host complete enough solution. We do not have something go install-able, pio-able, without a gazillion of deps web-app who offer:- a direct call UI- a chat UI, with optional group chats- a simple web site to be used as a wiki-like tool to share textual stuff + common media, storage internally managedWe have anything to do all of the above, but all very complex, spread across many different projects, fragile, hyper tedious to set up etc.
  • sam_lowry_
    It's good to start somewhere, but as a reminder, it's the same European Commission that:1. runs on Microsoft software that it buys from Fujitsu UK that HN crowd knows from the UK Post scandal2. Has multi-billion euro digital initiatives and a puny single-instance public Gitlab with a handful of shamefully incomplete "projects".3. Tells everyone that they have their own AI helpers while actually renting LLMs from Azure.
  • butvacuum
    If they can't pass chat control- Simply adopt something full of holes but seems reasonable.
  • dreamteam1
    * open source* don’t suck (too much)* no planned rug pulls* not infested by US or Chinese spywareAre there any?
  • jhgkhl
    Microsoft Teams is such a low bar, that anything else is probably an upgrade.
  • AndrewKemendo
    Help me hereWhy can’t a company in the EU make a secure video/voice chat app?There’s are EU companies that make teams alternatives:https://euroalternative.eu/alternatives/microsoft-teamsEven if those don’t work SAP, Dassault, etc… make massively complex software and services across multiple verticals and could trivially ship a competitor
  • ValtteriL
    Dreambroker
  • pwillia7
    lol good luck