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Tech companies shouldn't be bullied into doing surveillance

Tech companies shouldn't be bullied into doing surveillance

pseudolus

Comments (28)

  • epistasis
    Back during the Iraq war days and government overreach into privacy violations, the tech companies were on the side of the American people. They fought to defend the 4th amendment.That has all changed today, except for Anthropic. You think Apple is going to stand up to an unlawful DoJ demand these days? Hell no. Tim Cook has lit Apple's reputation on fire. I've been a super dedicated Apple user for 25 years, but I'm heading for the exits now. All that trust has been burned.Stay strong Anthoproc, you are seemingly the only really large SV company with any principles and backbone. I won't forget what happens here, either way it goes.
  • samrus
    Bullied into doing surveillance? Brother a large part of the tech companies valuations are built on how well they allow the government to do surveillance if the governement wants. They arent victims being bullied, they all knew this day would come ajd most were happy about it
  • saurik
    Maybe tech companies should try a bit harder to not centralize the world's information, unencrypted, on servers they control.
  • djoldman
    As an aside, why is it not a law that the government can't pay another entity to do something it's not allowed to do itself, without a warrant? I'm thinking about geo data from mobile apps.
  • nzeid
    Agree but a terrifyingly large number of tech companies have garbage security so the bullying is often unnecessary.
  • isodev
    Tech companies shouldn’t be able to do surveillance.
  • deadbabe
    If they give in I will cancel all Anthropic subscriptions and never use anything created by them again. Recent versions of Claude were getting shitty anyway, I could go without it.
  • mcs5280
    Imagine a world where businesses considered the morality of their decisions instead of just maximizing profits
  • browningstreet
    Hegseth & Co. has Grok but they actually want Claude. Elon hates Anthropic and.. well.. Hegseth has the power to put the hurt on them.Anthropic opened themselves to this disaster by making that first contract with the military.I don’t want them to lose this battle but it’s also one they brought upon themselves by stepping into that arena.
  • linksnapzz
    Neither should banks, but that ship has sailed.
  • camillomiller
    Well, it seems they don’t need that much bullying. They are absolutely happy to contribute if it means favors, no tariffs, more profit etc
  • ChrisArchitect
    Related:Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguardshttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47140734https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47142587
  • gaigalas
    Totally agree with the statement: Tech companies shouldn't be bullied into doing surveillance.I would personally add "bullied, coerced and/or gaslighted into doing surveillance".I don't understand why the US government is doing this though. Wouldn't it be much easier to do use some of the already passed laws on foreign intelligence to open a surveillance data pipeline? You know, like PRISM.I mean, this is inconsistent with the previous M.O., and highly unusual.I also feel very conflicted to suddenly have to "defend Anthropic", a company that has been systematically doing evil things (destabilizing markets, promoting misleading media campaings, etc). I don't want to defend those guys.Can I just dislike both the US military and Anthropic at the same time, and say there are no good guys here?
  • SanjayMehta
    "Tech companies shouldn't be bullied into doing surveillance for the govt."FTFYThey're going to spy on you regardless.