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- thih9> User configurable physical Privacy Switch - turn off your microphone, bluetooth, Android apps, or whatever you wishThe "whatever you wish" seems to indicate that this is a random switch that can be configured to turn off some functionality. Is that true?I was hoping for a solution that physically disconnects the microphone/cameras/etc, or at least acts at some lower level than the OS. But if it's flexible and configurable then it sadly doesn't look as secure.
- raphmanHN discussion from four months ago, including reports from people who have been using Jolla phones for some time (e.g., me):https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45785840
- pjmlpNokia N900 was really great, Jolla has some of the former team people.I only jumped into Android after my Symbian phone died, and by then Symbian Belle, with QT and PIPS (PIPS Is POSIX on Symbian OS), it was already shapping great.That Burning Memo was really a downer.
- zaggynlWhat does full-stack mean here? Phone is fully produced in Europe? Software and online storage fully provided by European company?edit: I want this phone, I have reserved a slot in the coming batch.Just posing as an average Joe here, someone who does not host their own storage, calendar, contacts, phone tracking, remote wipe, the "free" features Google and Apple are known for on their phones.
- oytisThe most important question missing from the FAQ is whether bank apps, government ID apps, etc. will work with this phone.
- sailorganymedeI noticed that the orders hasn't bumped up that much since this was shared last time. Not really sure I see the growth here is showing a lot of demand for a European smartphone - although I could totally be wrong given the geopolitical situation.
- 10729287That definitely seems to be the better alternative amongst all others. While I appreciate all the energy put into graphene or lineage it appears to me like way too much energy for Half baked solutions. Depending on google good will in the future too. I can understand them as hack, not that much as industrial proposals.
- codethiefWhat's the sandboxing & app permissions story like on Sailfish OS? Is it just ordinary Linux, i.e. apps can basically do anything?
- trilogicWell done, congratulations. My next phone will certainly be European to the root. Will be nice to come preinstalled with some free European (apps, socials and video hosting, like Vivaldi browser, HugstonOne local AI, Protonmail, Libreoffice, w-social, vimeo, mastodon, lemmy etc.
- rangunaWill it have USB C with DisplayPort alt mode?
- this-is-whyThis is the third phone on the HN main page. I’m happy to see this flurry of work at real competition in the market, but I hope the companies can survive and respond to CSVEs.
- spinningslateJolla has announced a new phone using its Sailfish OS so providing a full-stack European alternative to the Android/Apple duopoly.
- throw567643u8What's the difference between this and the Fairphone?
- haritha-jThis looks really cool. Orange, black and white being inspired by scandinavian design felt like a bit of a reach though.
- goodpointThe OS is proprietary.
- _imnothereI heard and read negative things about them, do they actually ship?
- stuaxoI bought the pre-order thing, but not sure what to expect - I guess to get an email at some point so I can buy it..
- latexrI hate the camera bump trend. I don’t need a super fancy camera, just give me something half decent and flush with the device.The original iPhone SE was the last time I enjoyed a phone’s design.
- poisonborzOther comments have links to more details, but in short: do not support this company.It was to be expected that a lot of corps will want to milk the term "EU sovereignty" and good willed naive people who don't look inside the packaging.
- jaggsThis looks interesting. https://e.foundation/e-os/
- dev0pI mean 600+ euros is kind of a steep price, doubt I'll ever consider buying one because of that alone.Also, as an italian, Jolla reminds me a lot of the word "Ciolla", which you can only guess what it's a slang for. That doesn't help.
- bluebarbetThis project has been going for years. Good to see it lives on.IMO there's a paradox with these privacy-focused mobile solutions. Just as with the expensive flagship corporate devices, the massive price tags suggest an assumption that we are doing all our computing on mobile. That's now the case for most normies. But for anyone who really cares about their privacy (not to mention sanity), there's a better solution available: repatriate most of one's computing to a laptop. At which point all these mobile devices become unjustifiably expensive. Hence the paradox.PS: downvoting a reasoned opinion, apart from being lazy and toxic in any community, does not constitute a rebuttal.
- grigioif it doesn't run GNOME Mobile or KDE it isn't an alternative
- mytailorisrich> a full-stack European alternativeIt is absolutely not. More than misleading title.People are jumping on this "EU sovereignty" thing band-wagon and milking it for all it's worth.
- Markoffhuge notch and huge bottom bezel with mediocre Mediatek Dimensity 7100, all this for 650EUR with specs worse than 200EUR phones, that's like 450EUR for software, a bit high surcharge...
- wolvesechoesFirst, it is not European alternative - it is Finnish. _Europe_ is not a single country. I will keep reminding about that.Second, don't really care. Any political actor, be it state or super-state actor like EU, that is serious about tech sovereignty should start subsidizing its own tech sector and properly fund domestic R&D to create truly independent solutions, and pass law to legally oblige all its institutions to support these solutions. I may be sympathetic to the idea, but some Linux-based smartphone is in practice useless to me if the main government app in my country only supports Android and iOS, and my banking app requires Google Play Services.Folks, tech sovereignty is a political decision, not a consumer choice. Start making demands on your leaders, as their sole purpose is to make policies and this is why they live off your taxes. Do not satisfy yourself with empty consumer gestures.