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  tuukkah
  Meanwhile, the corresponding "non-standard" desktop PC is the Framework Desktop, which with the Ryzen AI Max+ 395 can use 120GB of its 128GB RAM for the GPU: How to Run a One Trillion-Parameter LLM Locally: An AMD Ryzen™ AI Max+ Cluster Guide https://www.amd.com/en/developer/resources/technical-article...
• wosined
  Looks like someone has run out of money.
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  qalmakka
  Yeah, but all of this is pointless when RAM is as expensive as two CPUs by itself - if it's even in stock. AMD/Intel should focus on that first if they want to save their DIY business at all - which I'm starting to doubt they don't
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  snovv_crash
  Hoe much dedicated cache do these NPUs have? Because it's easy enough to saturate the memory bandwidth using the CPU for compute, never mind the GPU. Adding dark silicon for some special operations isn't going to make out memory bandwidth faster.
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  mcraiha
  These are mobile chips shoehorned into AM5. They aren't very good e.g. for gaming purposes. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-ai-400-does-not-suppor...
• Havoc
  Some of these supporting ECC is of some interest. Though fast udimm ecc ram is going to be extremely expensive
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  Buttons840
  Do we expect special AI processors to diverge from GPUs? Like, processors that can do parallel neural network computations but cannot draw graphics?
• anon
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  iso-logi
  8 Core/16 Thread, boosting up to 5.1GHz with iGPU would be pretty neat for a Plex Server or Proxmox Server with a few VMs.
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  cebert
  AMD marketing is hoping the “AI” branding is a positive. Antidotally, I know many consumers who are not sold on AI. This branding could actually hurt sales.
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  lelanthran
  It doesn't sound as impressive as I wanted :-(I wanted a better strix halo (which has 128GB unified RAM and 40cu on the 8080s (or something) iGPU).This looks like normal Ryzen mobile chips + but with fewer cus.
• DeathArrow
  "AI" branding applied to subpar products hoping to boost sales.
• poly2it
  The Ryzen AI line is actually great if deployed to an entire org as the bottom tier, as it garuantees every device has a 50 TOPs NPU. We deploy local software at $STARTUP and this makes deployment to a Windows corp more predictable.
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  FpUser
  Well, for me personally it is a meh until RAM prices go down. Suddenly, decent PC has turned from a tool accessible to average Joe to a luxury item
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  a012
  > This makes them AMD’s first desktop chips to qualify for Microsoft’s Copilot+ PC label, which enables a handful of unique Windows 11 features like Recall and Click to Do.Microsoft: "Friendship ended with Intel, now AMD is my best friend"