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  aeturnum
  I don't have much to add except to say that I think this is a stand-out example of how companies and preservationists should work together and not against each other. The childish folks who are upset about this aren't familiar with the realties of either open source games perseveration nor the realities of being an IP holder. This is as close as we have gotten to the Good Place. I wish Atari luck on the re-release and I hope that anyone who's upset about it reflects on why they are upset.
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  legitster
  As a sidenote, this whole situation implies just how important platforms are.Nothing about OpenTTD has changed. You can literally just go download it off their website for free - same as it was 20 years ago. And you can add it to your Steam library just fine. It's only been on the Steam store for 5 of those years.But the open internet is dead now and just being "de-merchandised" from a platform feels like being relegated to the dark web (maybe something the open source community doesn't quite fully appreciate).
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  999900000999
  This is beyond reasonable.You can still download it for free outside of Steam.If I make a Sonic fan game and Sega is like, you can keep it online, but just not on Steam, that’s nice.In this situation you still have the option of playing it on Steam for a modest priceThe alternative is the Nintendo route…
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  ApolloFortyNine
  >Additionally, as part of the discussions we held, Atari agreed to make a contribution towards the running costs of our server infrastructure. We are also extremely grateful for the many donations that have come in over the past few days from users - your support will help keep our services going, and it is deeply appreciated.That's pretty cool of them.
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  beardsciences
  I'm glad that Atari was willing to compromise at all. I'm happy with the updated response, and hope that it helps others understand the nuance of the situation. Anyone can still go download the main release from the official site.
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  paxys
  I'm sure I'm missing some context but what is Atari's role here exactly? Isn't OpenTTD an independent and fully legal project? What is Atari's basis for asking for a "compromise"?Or is it just the case that the project maintainers got paid off?
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  mhitza
  The initial post has omitted any reason for the change. Of course people would speculate, including in the HN comments.What seemed majority at the time was the idea of some collaboration/partnership and monetary exchange.I think its a good lesson in communication, especially when you have a dedicated community. Transparency is welcome.Regarding Atari and "their rights", there hasn't been an Atari for way too long and the IP was passed between companies left and right without additive value to users. I expect transport tycoon to be another cash grab, but happy to be surprised for the better.
• 1313ed01
  After installing TTD from GOG I panicked a bit, not seeing any DOSBox or DOS files. For a moment I thought it was files from an old Windows 95 version only, but there was (also) a DOS installer (INSTALL.EXE). I ran that, went through all the usual steps (select Sound Blaster IRQs and so on) and now I can run it from my virtual (git-managed) DOS disk install directory where I install all my DOS games and applications. Next to the original TT that I installed a few months ago from an old CD-ROM. For completeness.
• NietTim
  I am very happy that this long stand grey area licensing situation around something I enjoy deeply has been resolved in what seems like the most perfect way possible
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  yellowapple
  In situations like this it's odd to me that the rightsholder wouldn't just sell an official build of the FOSS reimplementation with the assets (legally) included. If some of the proceeds end up going toward the FOSS reimplementation's donations then it seems like an easy win-win.
• dang
  Recent and related. Others?Changes to OpenTTD Distribution on Steam - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47381746 - March 2026 (131 comments)
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  jwitthuhn
  So they were not "pressured" but Atari contacted them and they proceeded to make this decision based because they "needed to balance Atari’s commercial interests".That sound indistinguishable from being pressured.
• samrus
  you know, given that i've often said "if youre getting it for free, your the product" i am ok with thisits not really possible for the rights holder to compete with a free product, since they arent harvesting data or oxploiting the userbase, so they need to charge. and openTTD getting a cut of the money really does show that this is fully collaborative
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  rvnx
  Perhaps it is time for the law to evolve so softwares that are abandoned for x years become public domain (like Epic Pinball, Age of Empires, etc)
• mikkupikku
  Seems reasonable to me. Back when I started playing OpenTTD, about 20 years ago, you had to provide your own data files from your ostensibly legal copy of TTD. They changed that after they started distributing free alternative graphics, but to be frank the strict legal status of both OpenTTD and OpenRCT2 has always seemed mildly dubious to me, on account of both projects being based off disassembled code. Atari is being fairly reasonable and gentlemenly about this.
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  halo
  Wonder if the reaction would be the same if Wine was conditional on buying a license to Windows.
• c12
  In a world full of Nintendos, be Atari.
• shevy-java
  Would be nice to see OpenTTD on Steam/GOG, for a younger audience.Some games have a good replayfactor. Transport Tycoon Deluxe was nice in this regard; the spirit should be retained so younger folks can play it.
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  CivBase
  > we have not been “pressured” by Atari to make these changes.> Atari approached us to explain their plans for the Transport Tycoon Deluxe re-release, and what it might mean for OpenTTD.> we understood that a compromise would be needed to balance Atari’s commercial interests […] against the availability of a free, well-developed evolution of the game.Sounds to me like you were pressured by Atari to make these changes.
• zeeshdev2887
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  junaru
  Atari is releasing an inferior product and needs the superior community one delisted. The remaster cannot compete, simple as.
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  Lammy
  > a compromise would be needed to balance Atari’s commercial interests (which of course they are entitled to pursue as the rights holder)No, fuck 'em. They had nothing to do with developing the game, and in a sane copyright structure a thirty-year-old work would be public domain by now.
• nubinetwork
  > please be nice to AtariYou're not my mom...
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  maCDzP
  Now with AI I wonder if it’s possible to just let agents build a perfect emulation of the game. It reminds me of fuzzers. You let the agent go loose on the game and it brute forces every possible state. Then recreates the code. It’s very inefficient- but it probably works.