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  bdbdbdb
  I read this back in 2009, happy to see it's still on the internet.Obviously with today's electricity prices it would use more than $5 per year but even doubled it is extremely cheap.My issue with the concept is space and convenience. My upright fridge is about this size but it would take up too much space in my kitchen on its side. Worse again that you can't keep anything on top because that's where the door is.But more crucially, with a chest freezer you can only easily access the stuff on top. If something is a few levels down you have to move a lot of stuff to access it. I wish they came with shelves that cantilevered out like a toolbox, or a vertical lid on rails that lifted like a drawer
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  doughecka
  Reminds me of Fly Away Home with the round fridge that would lift out of the counter. True story: "The refrigerator is round, rising from under the granite countertop with the touch of the button.“The pneumatic fridge works with air compression,” she says. “You step on the button and it pops up and the racks spin like a lazy Susan. Cold air is heavy so it stays cold.”" https://www.thestar.com/life/home-and-garden/paula-lishman-a...
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  tempestn
  It's a cool idea, and might be great for a secondary fridge. For a primary fridge though, it's so much more convenient to have direct access to everything through a vertical door. I like energy efficiency, but I'm willing to pay 300kWh a year (around $40 here) for that convenience, let alone the space efficiency.
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  Hextinium
  This reminds me of the Technology Connections fridge rant video. Similar arguments all around, the dumping effect of cold out of a vertical fridge is pretty crazy to watch with a thermal camera.https://youtube.com/watch?v=CGAhWgkKlHI
• nkrisc
  So the cold air spills out when you open it. However the thermal mass of the air inside the fridge can’t be much compared to the thermal mass of the contents of a normal fridge. And of course the more full your fridge, the less cold air there actually is in there to lose anyway.No doubt that a chest fridge would be more efficient on paper, but it’s far more inconvenient for everyday use. I would question if the efficiency gains are lost by all the time you’d spend with it open digging around for stuff.
• ajb
  This is presumably why vertical freezers have drawers. Theoretically if all the space is taken by drawers, there is no cold air that can immediately fall out. I guess the movement of the drawer would at least disrupt the air in that drawer though, unless it has an individual lid. It does seem like drawers could be used on fridges as well, and gain some of the benefit of this and still be practical. Although not so convenient for the top one.
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  calmbonsai
  This only makes practical sense if your energy costs are exorbitant compared to the western industrialized world and you don't care about cold-storage volume relative to room square footage and/or ready access to stored items.Thus, vertical refrigerators and freezers absolutely dominate.
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  wiskinator
  Ohhh the links at the bottom of this guys site are wild and good reading.https://thiaoouba.com/Please note I am disputing his science on the efficacy of a vertical fridge.
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  Tepix
  Idea: If you have a vertical fridge on your countertop and you change the door so that it slides down and the cold air stays inside the part of the fridge still closed by the door, you could sort the things in your fridge by frequency of accessing them.
• ashenke
  Because I have more vertical space in my kitchen than I got horizontal one.
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  PaulKeeble
  Its possible to design internal structures such that its easier to use as a Fridge and freezer with some loss of space to avoid having to reach down into it. It would waste space and some efficiency however, the more complicated it becomes with assisted lifting and such the worse the gap would become. But the problem is often space, a lot of kitchens do not have 2x the floor area to be putting in chests making them good for secondary storage somewhere else but not a primary kitchen appliance.There is no doubt its better thermally just because cold air falls out the front of a normal fridge/freezer and huge amounts of energy are wasted everytime you open the door. A chest design looses considerably less of its cooled air but its also a lot more awkward to use and ends up less floor space efficient.
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  mememememememo
  Why?a: space.A standup fridge freezer is floor space efficient.How much rent is the chest freezer using per year :)Made up numbers 10k for 1000sqft10 per sq ftSo say $40 a year in rent. Still not too bad I guess
• burnt-resistor
  More floor space per storage volume is why. Most dwellings in urban and some suburban areas are area constrained for everything, especially appliances, and unable to use chest type freezers my grandparents had to keep loads of venison and catfish in their lake house. It'd also be great™ if freezers used Vacuum Insulation Panels (VIPs).
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  mapontosevenths
  I have a bad back and bending over hurts. Statistically it will also start to hurt you someday.Even if we ignore the pain, there is no way to organize food in a chest freezer effectively. To reach items on the bottom one must remove all the food that sits above it. This wastes time and effort that could better be spent on other things. Meaning the opportunity cost is too high, even if it saves me money on electricity.
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  anjel
  Modern refrigerators are designed for browsing. A chest fridge could save a person a lot of calories over time
• brunes
  The answer to his question is right here.
• globular-toast
  Probably completely offset by having a home large enough to have a chest fridge.
• erelong
  Just have to make it either easy to buy or easy to mod and emphasize energy savings and lots of people would be interestedEdit: looks like a few chest freezers have a "fridge" setting, which sounds like the easiest way to do this for those interested (maybe)
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  zeroq
  It's more about freezers than fridges. Less frequent access and ton more work to get the temps back. I never thought about it but it was such an a-ha moment for me when I recently learned about it that I'm genuinely flabbergasted why it's not more popular.
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  nom
  No.Drawers.
• tolidano
  What’s the possibility of turning such a device 45 degrees (or even 90)? Would it ruin anything? Because then you could stack two and it wouldn’t be so bad.
• AndrewSwift
  Drawers would solve this in a vertical fridge.
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