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Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again

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  • 1una
    Looks like this was restored 2 weeks ago[0], 3 days after Anthropic said OpenClaw requires extra usage[1]. At this point, it's hard to take this seriously. No official statement and not even a tweet?[0]: https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/commit/d378a504ac17eab2...[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47633396
  • Alifatisk
    > Anthropic staff told us OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed againAnthropic staff have had contradictive statements in Twitter and have corrected each other. Their intent for clarifications lead to confusion.> OpenClaw treats Claude CLI reuse and claude -p usage as sanctioned for this integration unless Anthropic publishes a new policy.Oh cool, so everything is back to business now, until they all or sudden update their policy tomorrow that retracts everything.Anthropic have proved themselves to be be unreliable when it comes to CC. Switching to other providers is the best way to go, if you want to keep your insanity.
  • victorbjorklund
    Anthropic is really trying to burn all that goodwill they worked up by raising prices, reducing limits and making it impossible to know what the actual policies are.
  • arjie
    Oh that's interesting. Right after they signed the deal with Amazon so maybe it was all compute constrained. In any case, I tried using the Codex $20/mo plan and the limits are so low I can hardly get anywhere before my agent swaps to a different agent.Somewhat suspicious that if I do this without an official Anthropic notice I'll lose my precious Max $200/mo account so I'll sit tight perhaps for a while.
  • eknkc
    I’ve been using codex cli and GPT 5.4. It is better at coding than Opus anyway. I did not really test Opus 4.7 but older versions generated worse results compared to GPT.Which I would not even try and test though if Anthropic did not ban my account. The shadiest thing I did was to use it with opencode for a while I think. Never installed claw or used CC tokens somewhere else.This is a weird company doing weird shit.
  • walthamstow
    OpenClaw says Anthropic says it's OK. Well, that's crystal clear then.
  • dmazin
    I got sick of the inconsistency caused by Anthropic tinkering with Claude Code and had canceled my 20x. My plan was to switch to Codex so I could use it in Pi.I am specifically talking about switching because of the harness, not model quality. Anyone else match my experience?I wonder how many other people recently did the same. It would be prudent of Anthropic to let people use Pro/Max OAuth tokens with other harnesses I think. Even though I get why they want to own the eyeballs.
  • Frannky
    Why? Did they figure out cheaper compute? Or did they lose a lot of users, and now the compute is there unused?
  • throwup238
    I don’t think I’ve seen a more confused and shambolic product strategy since Google’s absurd line of GChat rebrandings.Last year I was excited about the constant forward progress on models but since February or so its just been a mess and I want off this ride.Either way I’m going to wait for “official” word from Anthropic, which I guess at this point will probably be a “Tell HN” or Reddit text post or a Xitter from some random employee’s personal account, because apparently that’s the state of corporate communication now.
  • EFLKumo
    Whether to allow Claude subscription to access other services or not, at this point, anthropic seems to be schizophrenic, sometimes worried about insufficient computing power and sometimes worried about user loss, which is puzzling.
  • dhoe
    I didn't even use openclaw and Anthropic disabled my account without explanation beyond "suspicious signals". If anyone found a way to get out of that, I'd be curious to hear it - genuinely no idea what I did wrong, and the Google docs form I filled out to appeal never got me any reply.
  • doginasuit
    I'm out of the loop on Claude, hasn't it always been possible to use the Anthropic API with a tool like OpenClaw, paying per request? Is this limitation just for using your monthly subscription account?
  • RoxiHaidi
    Same, I am from the 3x plan and canceled and switched to Codex 2 days ago...
  • solomonb
    Does this mean you can use openclaw with a Claude Pro account? I'm curious try it but no way i'm going to pay API rates.
  • tristanb
    Maybe it’s allowed because they built the ability to direct the costs to your extra usage budget, not your monthly subscription?
  • darylteo
    Correction: OpenClaw says Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is okay again.
  • jollymonATX
    How can they be this bad at this? What was all that about then?
  • jorisboris
    Swapped my OpenClaw to Claude again. I played around with Gemini and Chinese models in past month but it didn’t work for me.
  • djyde
    题外话，你们不觉得在 openclaw 里用 claude 相当浪费 token 吗？
  • amazingamazing
    Guess they saw the growth of their growth shrink dramatically lol
  • est
  • swyx
    a more authoritative source (aka a tweet) woudl be nice.
  • brandensilva
    The sentient had already sailed. It's hard to trust Anthropic here given the ringer they have dragged us through.Contrast that to what GitHub did which was to pause new customers to ensure quality remained and things were stable.
  • mlitwiniuk
    This is a perfect example of how quickly you can burn through trust that took a long time to earn. I used to be - in my small circle of friends and peers - a genuine advocate for Anthropic and Claude. It was my sole AI assistant for over a year. But somewhere around February/March, something shifted. Declining quality, policy changes, inconsistent output. Nothing dramatic, just... a slow erosion.That erosion pushed me to try Codex. I signed up for their most expensive pro plan. Now I'm about to experiment with Kimi. I'm not saying they're better (well, sometimes they are). But here's the thing - what Anthropic did is they made me look. They made a loyal customer start shopping around. And I think that's the worst thing you can do.Having said that - as an LLM provider for my product, we're staying with Claude. I still trust in their ethics. Please don't prove me wrong.
  • croes
    Correct title: OpenClaw says Anthropic said OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
  • GodelNumbering
    How about third party coding harnesses?
  • imhoguy
    Would that apply to OpenCode too?
  • waynevdm
    Did they disable this to give them time to come out with their own agent?
  • gregman1
    Canceled anyway.
  • imron
    Can we get OpenCode support back as well?
  • jedisct1
    And tomorrow, it won't be allowed any more and accounts will be closed without prior notice.Use something else.
  • mentalgear
    Bad Decision.
  • darrenc81
    Great so now we can all look forward to Claude progressively getting reduced limits again. How long till the $1000 ultra plan... or they just want us all paying API credits instead
  • Havoc
    Same PR strategy as the US administration lol
  • saltyoldman
    I guess it doesn't matter any more, everyone bought all the mac minis
  • jarym
    Pfft. Damage done, users know that Anthrophic will pull the rug from under them again if given half a chance. So yea, plan accordingly.
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