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  arian_
  Anthropic renting out the data center Elon built for Grok is the kind of plot twist you can't make up.
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  0xbadcafebee
  Colossus 1 datacenter is the one using illegal power, is poisoning the air for poor communities near Memphis, and is potentially poisoning the water. It's likely the additional demand on the grid will cause massive blackouts during extreme weather events, putting residents at further risk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir...So you can put Anthropic on your list of companies that like to talk big about safety, but when the rubber hits the road, profits matter more than safety.
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  nl
  Say what you like about Sam Altman, but given how Anthropic is scrambling to sign capacity deals for compute we can sure say he was right about the capcity build out needed.
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  gpugreg
  > As part of this agreement, we have also expressed interest in partnering with SpaceX to develop multiple gigawatts of orbital AI compute capacity.Anthropic is either taking this space business more serious than the general public, or posting this sentence was part of the deal to get the compute.
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  losvedir
  > 300 megawatts of new capacity (over 220,000 NVIDIA GPUs)The scale is just mindboggling here. Are there any blog posts or anything discussing what kind of infrastructure is used for even just the inference side (nevermind the training) for SotA models like Opus? I would have thought it might be secret, but given that you can actually run the models yourself on AWS Bedrock doesn't that give an indication?
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  mirzap
  Doubling the five-hour rate limits is merely a marketing stunt if the weekly rates are not also doubled. It simply means that you can reach the weekly limits in three days instead of five.
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  htrp
  >Higher usage limits>The following three changes—all effective today—are aimed at improving the experience of using Claude for our most dedicated customers.>First, we’re doubling Claude Code’s five-hour rate limits for Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans.>Second, we’re removing the peak hours limit reduction on Claude Code for Pro and Max accounts.>Third, we’re raising our API rate limits considerably for Claude Opus models,Looks like Elon's finally giving up on XAI and just selling the compute
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  gck1
  Limits were the last straw that made me cancel my subscription and make my workflow completely model agnostic with pi.While this is good news, I'm not coming back. Anthropic just lost me with too many wrongs in too short of a time period.Opus has been replaced with GPT 5.5, DeepSeek, Kimi, Qwen and they all allow me to use my own, single harness and switch models easily if any of them start treating me the same.
• Frannky
  I shared a couple of days ago why they were not doing like Google and offering oss models, but damn, offering Anthropic models after all the badmouthing. Next news: OpenAI models live on Colossus 2
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  minimaxir
  > First, we’re doubling Claude Code’s five-hour rate limits for Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans.The fine-print-omission appears to be that weekly limits are not doubled. The progressive 5-hour rate limit shrinking was indeed an efficiency blocker that finally convinced me to cancel, but being only able to get 4 full sessions a week as opposed to 8 doesn't compell me to resubscribe.
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  cbg0
  They're doubling the five hour limits, but no mention about the weekly limit. So overall it's the same maximum usage, right?
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  antipaul
  "All of [SpaceX]'s compute capacity at Colossus 1"SpaceX/xAI also has Colossus 2, with double or more the GPUsSeems xAI will still be around
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  Philpax
  Well, this sucks :/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir...
• ilia-a
  Interesting that the 5h limits are raised, but if I understand announcement correctly, the weekly limit is not. So all this means is that you can burn through your weekly limit faster and be locked out entirely, or having to buy tokens
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  boramalper
  I wonder if it's just Elon realising that xAI can't beat OpenAI and thus deciding to give all his compute capacity to Anthropic instead.Certainly an interesting day for xAI.
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  exabrial
  This is where I see the economy of AI going:* Inference becomes cheap- speciality accelerators hit the market and race to the bottom begins* Training remains expensive- This works out for Anthropic/OpenAI, they go into the business of training* Models become rental units or purchasable assets, you run on inference hardware- Rent or own inference hardware* Or you pay someone to do all of the above for you, at a premium
• int32_64
  What's the current status of the 'biggest computer wins' vs. specialized proprietary research/data in the AI arms race? People had such high hopes for xAI because of the monster machine Elon built. Or has xAI just turned over too much staff too quickly?
• dagi3d
  does that mean this data center was way overprovisionedo or that grok is barely used and they could potentially kill it and just use claude?
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  skeledrew
  Oh. Just as I'm in the process of migrating to Pi+Qwen (local). This was probably going to be my last month on the Pro sub as I'm seriously fed up with the limits and degradation that started weeks after I signed up. Let's see how this shakes out.
• y42
  I want to believe. A couple of weeks ago I fell into this "trap", they offered a similar thing. I subscribed to the Pro Plan. Had fun for a couple of weeks and then I entered frustration phase. I love the product, but I hate those up and downs. My rant made it to HN front page - which I am not happy of. I want the stuff I build to be seen on the front page.
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  mandeepj
  "use all of the compute capacity at their Colossus 1 data center"So, they handed out all of their data center to Anthropic; Grok wasn't using it much?
• tanh
  Wouldn't trust them not to take a copy and use it to distill. Wonder what security there is
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  Geee
  For context, xAI GPU utilization is at 11% and they're also expanding.[0] Renting one datacenter to Anthropic doesn't mean that they would be shutting xAI / Grok down.[0] https://wccftech.com/xai-using-just-11-percent-gpus-while-me...
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  everfrustrated
  For those who haven't been following the build out.xAI has added about 500MW of nvidia gpu capacity in ~Apriland will add another 500MW before the end of the year totaling about 2GW.
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  athrow
  Anthropic taketh and Anthropic giveth.
• exabrial
  > Within the monthTo me this is the mind-bending piece. It's not a like a datacenter has a plug-and-play with well written spec and an international standard interface.
• maelito
  These energy figures are gigantic. It's getting absurd.
• logicalappeals
  Anthropic looking to garner some good will after the recent issues. I’ll gladly take the higher rate limits
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  amacbride
  As a bonus, it looks like they reset limits a few minutes ago -- I went from 53% of my weekly allotment to 0%.
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• tintor
  So, when you use Claude Code from now on, you will be poisoning people in the rural parts of Memphis with xAIs unpermitted gas generators.
• kristianp
  What GPUs does Colossus run? Old H100s?
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  Rover222
  Reading the comments here again surprises me how in an anti-Elon bubble most folks are. They are renting out spare Colossus 1 capacity. Colossus 2 is still coming online. Orbital data centers are really the plan in the next few years. XAi is still behind, but not a disaster considering how late they entered (and Elon’s unfortunate fixation on anime characters).SpaceX is extremely uniquely positioned to crush the rest of the world combined in order to orbital data centers.
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  swalsh
  Models are a commodity, let's say Elon actually figures out building datacenters in space, or maybe he continues to be the leader of building earth based datacenters. Probably better business to not have yourself as your only customer. Dogfood, and open it to all.
• nethunters
  Hopefully this filters through to Copilot's recent rate-limits
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• 2001zhaozhao
  I mean, as someone who has the Max 20x plan and uses it only outside work (so I could not hit anywhere close to the weekly limit at all), I'll gladly take the 5-hour limit doubling.My first impression to this post is "what the hell are they thinking?", but actually it seems like a decent move by them.They basically made it so that normal users can better utilize their plan while not benefitting the backgroundagentmaxxers and stealth openclaw abusers in the ranks of their subscription audience. Making their plan more attractive to the people they actually want to sell to.Hopefully this leads to a loosening of harness restrictions later.
• stuaxo
  Oh is this the polluting gas powered data centre Elon made, that's making local residents unhealthy ?This might be a good time to drop Claude.
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  lairv
  For a space that supposedly had "no moat", the number of players still competing for frontier models seems to be shrinking pretty fast
• gigatexal
  I would gladly take a worse experience than to have my favored LLM vendor partner with an Elon company.
• Marciplan
  If Anthropic and SpaceX and OpenAI are all going public this year then this is a clever move to stick it to OpenAI. However, I'm kinda sus of my Claude subscription now
• LNSY
  Too little, too late. I'd rather have a consistent, dumber model than sometimes excellent but often miserable Claude.Staying with Claude is like going back to the restaurant where you got food poisoning: you kinda get what you deserve next time you get sick.
• iamleppert
  Hopefully they will work on response time. I've been noticing it taking 5+ minutes for each turn, for not complicated requests. Seems to vary based on time of day too.
• hirvi74
  I would have preferred an increase in the weekly limits instead of the 5-hour limits.
• lossolo
  xAI (part of SpaceX) using just 11 percent of GPUs[1]1. https://wccftech.com/xai-using-just-11-percent-gpus-while-me...
• sourcegrift
  Anthropic aligning with the guy who got Trump elected means they are dead to me.I'm posting immediately after cancelling my claude subscriptions.
• 4b11b4
  I mean... seems like a no-brainer
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  stavros
  > First, we’re doubling Claude Code’s five-hour rate limits for Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans.Ok I guess, this was a bit of a hassle, but you're not increasing my weekly allowance, you're just not annoying me as often.> Second, we’re removing the peak hours limit reduction on Claude Code for Pro and Max accounts.It wasn't a limit reduction (as in, I didn't have a lower 5-hour limit), it was "tokens are more expensive" and it ate my weekly limits faster. This should never have been instituted to begin with.> Third, we’re raising our API rate limits considerably for Claude Opus models, as shown in the table below:Meh.This is why I don't care for all the "it's a subscription, you're free to not use it!" arguments here. It's not an all-you-can-eat subscription with some generous fair use limits, it's a "X tokens per month for $Y", and they keep lowering the X unilaterally and in secret.
• AlexCoventry
  So now Elon Musk gets to read all of our Claude conversations?? :-(
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• hparadiz
  Give them whatever they need. Time to go to the moon.
• mark_l_watson
  The politics and economics of Musk throwing some support towards Anthropic is interesting (samma is probably pissed).But, if you will pardon a little rant: I hate the idea of subscription inference plans and also 'dumping' by subsidizing non-profitable products. Inferencing should be pay as you go and dumping illegal.
• breakingcups
  I could have used this news 2 days ago. I've been trying out Claude Code for a few days and kept running into the limit, so I wanted to upgrade to Max. In the upgrade-flow they hit me with an identity verification through Persona. No problem, I thought, I'll just cancel the upgrade. Nope, all access to Claude Code on the old plan was now also blocked and can't be unblocked without completing Identity Verification, which I'll never do. What a bad experience.On the plus-side, it told me how much cheaper Deepseek is and that it's on parity for reverse engineering work.