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  jgrahamc
  I have a Flipper Zero and I've used it... occasionally. Like that one time controlling the Taylor Swift Eras tour wristbands: https://blog.jgc.org/2024/05/controlling-taylor-swift-eras-t... but it's mostly sat around being an odd device.I duplicated a couple of RFID things, used the IR for some stuff, and once in a while used the radio receiver, but mostly it looks pretty.I'm not sure what I'd do with a Flipper One, but I guess I've done a lot of things with Raspberry Pis so... maybe?
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  Glohrischi
  What a weird thing to build.I can just do all of it with a laptop. At that price point they will have to put it, it will not be worth it to buy it to carry it around to play around 'sometimes'.
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  sterlind
  maybe I'm blind, but it looks like there's no radio! like there's wifi and bluetooth, sure, but I don't see NFC or RFID or sub-1ghz radio, at all.imo the flipper always needed to be a software-defined transciever, with a small FPGA to drive it, like the other SDRs on the market. I'm disappointed they seem to have forsaken radio completely.
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  Aurornis
  Display connected to the microcontroller instead of the Linux SoC is an interesting choiceActually, putting all of this powerful hardware into a custom aluminum enclosure with gorilla glass and then using a 6-bit low resolution grayscale display is a weird choice. I guess they were going for a certain grayscale low-fi vibe?The "needs verification" and "needs clarification" lines are weird. Like they asked someone (or ChatGPT?) to review some docs and post something, but forgot to review it first.
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  arjie
  Interesting. No IR/RFID/NFC? That's the primary use of my Flipper Zero. So this is meant to be a different device rather than a successor.
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  elevation
  I wasn't expecting the Ethernet ports. I would love to be able to plug this in an know in a second what tagged vlans are preset, what addr/mask the DHCP server offered, is PXE an option? blink an LED if there's a new RA, ipv6 neighbor, etc. Blink an LED if there's been a 802.3x pause frame in the last 500ms, or 802.3Qbb while we're at it. With the pair of ports, let me MITM so the 802.1X negotiation can take place before I start sniffing.
• GuB-42
  It looks like a completely different product, not an evolution of the Flipper Zero.The main focus here seems to be networking, not Radio/IR/etc... In fact it doesn't even have these features. They could be added but that would be missing the point. The point of the Flipper Zero is to have all these in a cute little package, and have a community around a common hardware platform. If you start adding stuff, there are certainly better/cheaper options, especially if you already have a laptop, or maybe even a smartphone.Also the original Flipper Zero is about $200, it is at the upper limit of what can be considered a toy. Something you can buy without thinking "do I really need this?". The Flipper One is far more powerful, and the casing is not just a plastic clamshell, so it is likely to be significantly more expensive, so, not a toy, especially if you buy accessories, like a PCIe SDR.Also, part of the appeal of the Flipper Zero is that out of the box, it does things that few non-specialized devices do, especially sub-GHz radio. The Flipper One is essentially just a computer. I already have WiFi and Ethernet on plenty of other devices, so it doesn't really open new possibilities.I guess they are trying to go for a more serious tool this time, because as it is, I don't see people buying it on a whim like with the Flipper Zero.Side note: There is a somewhat surprising lack of PoE, considering how much attention the gave to power management, and the fact that one of their use cases involve a security camera. Maybe they did consider it but some technical reasons made it impractical, 48V may be too much to handle.
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  idle_zealot
  I was getting very excited about this until I realized it's huge. Bigger than my phone in most dimensions. There go my dreams of a Flipper Zero-esque device I can port RockBox to and plug in for a low-power Linux PC...
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  elil17
  Why the AI voice assistant? What? Is this perhaps a prank? That doesn't line up with the ethos of the Flipper Zero
• throawayonthe
  i think this can be confidently called a cyberdeck. some may say a full massproduced commercial unit goes against the spirit of che hobby but...there are now hardware clones and evolutions(!) of the flipper zero, community alt firmwares, add-on thingymajigs etc; if they stay as open with this one, having some 'cyberdeck r&d' done with funding might be coole.g. if they do a good job on the os side, it could become a cool jumping-off point for a variety of buildsnote i've never actually owner a flipper device or clone :p
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  Lwrless
  I use my Flipper Zero weekly (or more frequent). This new model feels much more powerful than the ones based on RPi Zero as a handheld device. I like how they managed to include two RJ45 ports and a USB-A port for connectivity. However, it's still too bulky for me. Perhaps when I get one, I'll try carrying it around all day to see how it goes. There's also a nano SIM slot. With the two Ethernet ports, it's perfect for use as a mobile router. This use case alone is good enough for me.For such a powerful device, I think the lack of a QWERTY keyboard and the inherited orange backlit monochrome display are two of its shortcomings. I don't want to carry a keyboard or screen with me, I want it to be able to take more human input/output without accessories.For those interested in hackable, handheld Linux devices, the M5Stack Cardputer Zero is also worth a look. It will launch on Kickstarter soon, and I have reserved an early bird spot.
• emsign
  No SDR? That's a bummer because otherwise it looks amazing. Yeah, I understand they are complimentary. But this would not be a big deal if you'd be able to easily connect both Flipper versions (wirelessly) and use the internal hardware and addons of the Flipper Zero with the Flipper One as if they were one device. Maybe even establishing a protocol that could be used to connect more external devices that understand their stndard.
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  s_dev
  I've heard some professionally inclined RFID engineers dismiss these as mere toys and not useful compared to professional grade hardware. Perhaps some of those folk are on HN if so what are the tool sets you actually use that can be sold to the public?
• blackle
  I have a flipper zero which I use monthly to provision keyfobs for new members of the hackerspace I run. Great little device! This new one doesn't have an nfc/rfid reader/writer so the use-case is a bit befuddling. I'd love to hear how people would use this and how it might beat out, say, a used thinkpad.
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  giobox
  Dual gigabit ethernet + even 6ghz wifi means this will likely work nicely as a travel router, which would mean I might actually carry it. There are a whole bunch of portable server use cases this opens up especially as it seems to have a bit of CPU grunt. My Zero was fun but has languished in drawers.
• ZiiS
  Much prefer a sub-$100 optimisation of the Zero; tbh you probably wouldn't need change much.
• purpleidea
  I like a device with these kinds of specs and this size, but I'd want all of this and all the hardware on the flipper zero as well. Seems all the RF/radio stuff is gone :/ I'd want at least that and more.
• ethin
  I wish I could get the Flipper 0 or 1, but it isn't accessible from what I know. And I'd build my own (I'd use it for my AC which has one of those shitty IR AA/AAA-battery style) or maybe even a way for me to control it from the web... Hmm. Problem with doing that is that I'd either need a pi or similar, and a pi seems massively overkill for something like that...
• ryancnelson
  i think i'd buy a $279 refurbished steamdeck and a bag of usb-c sensor-widgets from aliexpress. ...In fact I did. I plug my flipper zero into it sometimes, too.
• nvader
  I love my Flipper Zero, even though I have barely used it much. But I'm much more excited for the busy.bar which I think is from the same team. I'm hoping that gets ready to ship soon!
• vivid242
  A Swiss army knife of the day - after all, Swiss Army knives also serve a psychological purpose. And they do it well!
• alexisread
  There’s a definite overlap between this and the Cardputer Zero: https://youtu.be/lhS0trmBAAU?si=lLmCKdK3eHyMMAR0M2 slot or a clipon addon? Nice to see more Swiss Army knives in this space
• HWR_14
  Is there a reason the case angles out by the touchpad (like an antenna below)? That little feature pushes the overall length of the device up.
• bdavbdav
  Lots wondering about the dropping of NFC/other contactless radios. I'd argue Flipper never did this as well as a real Proxmark, and the Flipper One does well to stray from the half baked implementation in the zero
• vegadw
  Looks both expensive and power hungry, will be interesting to see how that works out
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  snvzz
  Not RISC-V? Uncool.
• ge96
  Finally a legit prop for movies not a pcb taped to a TV remoteI like that subreddit too with the e-ink display wifi probing thing forget what it's called oh pwnagotchi
• midtake
  Two ethernet ports, this is lethal af
• evanjrowley
  It has 2 Ethernet ports. I love it.
• dgellow
  Side question: anyone know what they are using to make those 3d schemas with highlights?
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  pnw
  I wish this thing looked more generic so the TSA won't confiscate it.
• fareesh
  "ok flipper hack everything, make no mistakes"
• rasz
  - Unlike Zero this looks more like Teenage Engineering product for computer nerds. Price tag will most likely match this.- Form factor will barely fit everything (battery).- Specs are LLM generated/hallucinated. Can tell by writing/emoji style and specs itself.- GPIO connector pinout specced by someone with no fast digital logic experience.- Buying flipper zero was (is it still?) pumping money to russia. Even after pretending to re-allocate their infrastructure was still in russia before being hidden behind cloudflare.
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  janci
  Why put such crappy display on such a high power device?
• PunchyHamster
  Interesting. I'd expect to have at least low end SDR built in into the successor, else it will miss a lot of functionality without expansion board
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  tamimio
  While I am fan for all the extra nerdy stuff, especially the cellular connectivity, but I doubt the battery endurance will be impressive, my current zero lasts weeks on a single charge. This is more of rpi plus addons in one package, great, but until we get to know the heat and battery life.
• aftbit
  Shut up and take my money.
• nelox
  No NFC or RF?
• kittikitti
  Technical specifications allow language models to run on this hardware (e.g. quantized 500 million parameter with 8GB LPDDR5 RAM). The Flipper One is AI capable and equipped with Ethernet, it can tackle agentic AI. I imagine a fleet of Flipper's, each with its own agent.
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  fragmede
  Only one wifi? There's more fun to be had if there was two.
• mschuster91
  No NFC, no 1-wire, no IR? That's some tough losses :(
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  pigeons
  I hate this naming trend "One". Its very common and everytime I think, oh its an older one, the first one.
• Computer0
  I for one think the PTT will be really great for calling specific tools without fumbling the menu and exactly how I'd like to use a device like this.
• xiaoluolyg
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• functionmouse
  It's ugly