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- virgildotcodesHere's a probably stupid question - if someone were unbounded by ethics and conceivably had enough power and connections to power to shield themselves from many consequences of their actions - and that person owned these DCs, could they in theory observe all the streams of tokens coming in and out of these models, and even exfiltrate copies of these models wholesale to have their own teams do what they will with them in the pursuit of building their own competitive models?Or is there something fundamental in the way these models get deployed (encryption or something or than legal contracts?) at this scale that prohibits the owners of the infra from gaining this level of insight / access?
- uramsVery possible Elon is doing this to make give Anthropic better chances against OAI while he attempts to reshape xAI.Also possible he sees infra as the future of xAI if he really believes in the value of space compute.Hard to see this any of this as anything other than a bearish sign for Grok though.
- gazeI think that's the datacenter with the gas turbine generators that operate without permits because they're "portable." Data centers have tremendous externalities but colossus is a particularly nasty offender, and not just due its size.Edit: They did it with Colossus and now they're doing the exact same thing with Colossus2. https://www.selc.org/news/xai-built-an-illegal-power-plant-t...
- alienrebornWhy is xAI giving up their advantage? Is this a signal that their frontier model improvements are plateauing and decided there is no value in hoarding all their compute?
- aurareturnMore signs that xAI might be giving up on the AGI race. xAI let Cursor train a model on Colossus 2, gave the entire Colossus1 to Anthropic, and is now giving compute in Colossus2 to Anthropic as well.
- amazingamazingI don't see a scenario where it really makes sense to be a frontier lab long term. Eventually model quality will plateau then you distill and get 90% for 10% or less cost.
- stevefan1999Aren't Anthropic afraid of Elon siphoning the model weights out from the network buses?
- 6thbitThis isn't pointing towards a merger is it?xAI gets the cashflow and makes spaceX bottom line more appealing. But that guy Musk hardly makes deals that favor other companies over his, so what am i missing?
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- LucasoatoOk, maybe this question is a bit silly, but could it possibly be that Elon is doing this to steal Anthropic models secrets and using them to improve Grok?
- try-workingxAI cannot train models. Anthropic cannot do inference. The roles of these two companies have already been decided; one as a pure inference provider, the other as a pure model manufacturer.
- chinathrowI use Claude daily but I do not want that my spend is going towards Elon.
- itrunsdoomguyThey should set up a Doom server there.
- momo26Does an expansion of computing power on this scale imply that computing capital is displacing model architecture as the true moat in AI competition?
- ramon156How come a company like Anthropic has invested in photonic computing? If it's good enough for Boeing, I'd assume they would at least invest in it. qc-LPU100 seems worth it for some matrix mult, if it can be proven its O(n) (at least less than O(n^3).
- zombotWhen they are doing Colossus (The Forbin Project), I wonder who will be building Samaritan (Person of Interest)?
- zitterbewegungSeems like either Grok is being shut down or it will be "powered by anthropic" soon.
- ChrisArchitectRelated:SpaceX S-1https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48213933
- ReptileManWar makes strange bedfellows.
- labradorMusk said Anthropic Claude was woke DEI until he said it wasn't. It must be hard for Musk fans to keep up.
- neloxI predict SpaceX will subsume Anthropic at some point.
- mrcwinnAnthropic is gross for this. The grandstanding about principles and values is intolerable.
- ChicagoDaveSigh.I’d hoped Anthropic would steer clear of blatantly unethical practices but here they go in bed with that guy and his horribly damaging data center.
- jgalt212Too bad Enron is still not around. They'd have some real fun with today's electrical markets.
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- fasbg1I though Claude is too woke. Musk has posted that at least 50 times in the last year.But booking outrageous rental fees as fake AI revenue ahead of the SpaceX IPO apparently takes precedence.
- poelziNobody uses grok except checking shit on X At least the hardware is not idle
- throwatdem12311Cool. Can they make Claude not absolute dogwater then?