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- zuzululuwas expecting a bit more substance but always interesting to read different approaches.but I do wonder if BEAM is a bit of an overkill, even fly.io (known among developer threads to be very unreliable uptime) wouldn't be my first pick.Cloudflare Durable Objects really is generous, not often can you get replicated database and realtime sync for such low barrier in cost and implementation.I do wonder tho what Cloudflare's ultimate game is, as I'd imagine once they corner the market and practically everything is running off it, wouldn't be hard to say raise the $5/month to something higher.
- w10-1> Also, I would encourage others to target Mac in addition to iOS for a reason you might not expect: build times. The simulators and Xcode are really pretty slow. It’s all a lot faster if you’re targeting Mac.Yes, this makes my day: (also) target macOS for continuous rapid loops on one project, or target iOS and end up flitting back and forth between many projects. ("mac (made for iPad)" does not work.)
- chem83Thanks for the write up. Wondering why not use something like Flutter for good cross platform support with good graphical performance on all systems.One could argue that with agentic programming, releasing on a new platform is simply a matter of prompting for a new target, but I fear that the non-determinism of LLMs will lead into a whac-a-mole situation where you’re constantly fighting framework specifics and the code that the agent spit out to get to pixel perfect solutions across the platforms. Flutter in this case would be a more token efficient solution and quite fast on most platforms (particular the ones where their Impeller engine runs).
- dzongafunny enough - distribution on the web would've been easier than the App Store.likely - it would grow organically too since all one has to do is share a link.for social games yeah - Elixir | BEAM is an excellent stack.
- linsomniacI've been really enjoying retro games in the form of '80s arcade games lately. Last weekend I had Claude build me a web-based Rally-X inspired game and the experience was pretty good. I like that I can just drop it into a github.io and be done with it, but that isn't going to work for a game that needs a backend. https://linsomniac.github.io/rally-xy/I'm now working on a "nsnipes" game, and that, because of the multi-player aspect, is going to need a backend server.
- calflegalI should've said more about the tech. I will later. The server is in NJ. If you're in the EU the game might really lag. Sorry!
- Doohickey-dA question for OP: why did you choose Crunchy Data for your database, instead of Fly's own managed postgres offering? Because the latency between Fly and Crunchy Data must be quite high, given that they are probably not in the same datacenter.
- calflegalI'm sorry I took down the web client shortly after writing this post. Really ruins the point I made of being able to contrast web vs native performance, doesnt it? I realized I wanted to narrow my focus on client codebases. Fixing the post shortly.
- apt-apt-apt-aptReally interested in hearing more about the architecture. Especially (1) why you chose Elixir, Phoenix over TS (2) how you dealt with real-time multiplayer.Aside: The links to the web game in the post don't lead to being able to play.
- calflegalMy post about my recent project, Migo Games
- karadoIn my own projects I've found the feedback loop to be much slower in native mobile apps compared to web. For web apps my workflow has involved lots of human verification just through using the app myself and testing out the latest features/fixes. Sometimes I get the agent itself to do this before I do using Codex's chrome extension. This same process on mobile is a lot slower. How have you approached this aspect? Have you figured out a way to get the agent to control an emulator?