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- phreack> The bill applies to digitally sold games. However, it excludes games provided via subscription services, free-to-play games, and games that are inherently playable offline indefinitely. It also prohibits the continued sale or distribution of games that have become unusable due to service termination.I believe this is the key paragraph. I wonder if this will be an incentive towards making more games qualify for those exceptions. I think the previous cases where this act would apply are few but good thing they wouldn't increase under this act.
- ChoGGiBe interesting to see what this does to the online aspect of GTA 6.I do wish this had been around when Firefall [1] shutdown, haven't really bothered with live service games since then.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefall_(video_game)
- vlThey are going to do what movie industry is already doing: create shell company for release of each game.Then they will shut down the company when they want, and there will be nobody to come for.
- amazingamazingWriting is on the wall for more subscriptions. California will never learn - killed hollywood with most production being moved overseas, and now gaming.I wonder if they will do something similar for software
- Manuel_DReleasing server-side code would be a non-starter for lots of companies. For one, many of them don't actually own all of the code they use to implement the game server. There's lots of proprietary middleware in use in online games.Perhaps a workaround is to just have 1 server online indefinitely. Technically the online services are still functional - the match queue times would just be very, very large.
- jonhohleI’ve thought about how to introduce a bill and find sponsors for extending first sale and related rights to digital goods. I understand the current terms and licensing, but we’ve lost too much to non-transferable contracts and millennials and later will likely have no books, music, or games that can be inherited by their children. It’s crazy that after thousands of years of sharing copies of writings, hundreds of years of sharing recordings, and decades of sharing games, we’re going to give it all up because it’s a license now.The problem is, where to even start? I would think EFF would be spearheading something like this, but I haven’t come across anything. There have been attempts in the past, but they don’t seem to have ongoing support.
- wagwangThe reasonable compromise should be to force devs to release server binaries if they are not willing to run the servers themselves.
- charcircuitSo just make every game free to play and then require a paying to unlock the actual game.
- gib444It looks less like a ban on killing games, and more like a road-map for how publishers could change products/marketing/T&Cs to avoid flak and liability.(Not an ideal source btw: "This article was originally written in Korean and translated with the help of NC AI." The Bill is tiny can be read at https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm... )
- phendrenad2I think this will cause a big schism in the Stop Killing Games movement. Game devs who were sympathetic to the movement will expect that this is enough, but a lot of people in the movement will be unsatisfied with the carveouts for MMORPGs and XBOX Game Pass and the like.
- wilgThis is such a terrible solution to a literal non-problem.You should be able to make software that has a limited lifespan if you want. I just think that's fine. Games should not be special.
- kahrlSo instead of whole products sold at a one time price, there will be more and more subscription based services micro-transaction slop. 10/10 California. Never change.
- okdood64This what California's political machinery is focused on? Rather than the colossal waste that is the high speed rail project, or rampant corrupt use of State and local funds for social welfare projects that go nowhere?I understand you can focus on two things at the same time, and moonshot projects are worth it. (More NASA funding please.) But as a California taxpayer I can't take our government seriously.