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MAI-Code-1-Flash

EvanZhouDev

Comments (101)

  • bel8
    It's a start and I welcome competition but I don't think I ever used small cloud models like Haiku 4.5. They are cute but for serious coding they tend to waste your expensive time.And this certainly wont bring me back to GitHub Copilot which I cancelled yesterday.GitHub Copilot had competitive pricing until yesterday when they changed from per-request to one of the most expensive per-token quotas. Seriously, take a look at their burning subreddit for some laughs: https://www.reddit.com/r/GithubCopilotI have since changed to DeekSeek Flash on high which is Sonnet+ level for almost free.If I feel I still need smarter models I might signup for $20/mo Codex to use GPT 5.5 which, in my opinion, is the best I can access right now.
  • camelmel
    Huh, according to that model card this is a 137B total parameter model.Performance doesn't seem that good:- MAI-Code-1-Flash (137B-A5B) = 51% on SWE-bench pro- Qwen3.6-35B-A3B = 49.5% on SWE-bench pro (https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B)They benchmark against Claude Haiku but Haiku is not good, it's worse than tiny open models you can run locally or via API at 10% the cost.
  • hmokiguess
    Does anyone actually uses these smaller models for coding? If so, how? I usually Opus everything. Is the play to plan/design/architect with a heavier model than delegate structured tasks to these smaller ones? Would appreciate to hear someone's opinion on having done and tested both paths.
  • GaryBluto
    What's with the lack of Microsoft design language on the website? It's painfully obvious they're trying to emulate Anthropic's style here and it looks tacky.
  • capten
    It's so weird to me that the benchmarks remain so low, but the models are marketed as revolutionary. And if you say that low coding capabilities aren't a problem, say that to the token price hike and 'general use' model setup.Why not sell it as a math agent? Why do I have to set up 4 agents to check each others' work?
  • AntiRush
    The introductory blog post has a lot more informationhttps://microsoft.ai/news/introducingmai-code-1-flash/and the model cardhttps://microsoft.ai/pdf/MAI-Code-1-Flash-Model-Card.PDFThe broader announcement of 7 MAI models seems to be where the 5B active in the title comes fromhttps://microsoft.ai/news/building-a-hillclimbing-machine-la...
  • deckar01
    If only they had launched that yesterday I might have avoided Copilot auto model selection using a 9x model, quietly burning my monthly quota in a single afternoon.
  • AJRF
    Copilot brand is tarnished, so time to bung everything under MAI?
  • OsrsNeedsf2P
    So it's trained on the SWE Bench Pro evalset
  • mentos
    Shouldn’t the next model focus not be on code but system design?Seems like the work from a good system design to code is practically solved.Now it’s a matter of the design of the system. Or is that represented in these evals?
  • giancarlostoro
    Mark Zuckerberg must be in crisis. Microsoft releasing models that compete with Claude's models. Meanwhile the only thing anyone knows about Mark's models is that they help you get hacked more easily.
  • anon
    undefined
  • tosh
    not open weight or at least I did not find anything indicating open weight
  • onlyrealcuzzo
    Gemma 4 26B-A4B scored exceptionally well with 20% less params, so this isn't unprecedented.
  • efields
    Please test your websites in Safari. Almost all of your iOS users use it by default, and the desktop experience is pretty close to the mobile experience, so testing is easy.That scroll effect is jank city for me (yeah yeah works fine in Chrome/Edge).
  • hootz
    I'd love to see a tokens per second metric. I always prioritize speed over raw intelligence for flash models.
  • mmaunder
    You lost me at forced scrolling. Ugh!
  • bguberfain
    It is good to se big companies like Microsoft launching LLMs. They have large amount of compute power and good scientists to create useful models.
  • gslepak
    Would be cool if this were an open model.
  • ajyoon
    Scroll wheel hijacked on this entire domain
  • striking
    To be clear about the size of the model: MAI-Code-1-Flash is 137B A5B.
  • ilia-a
    I mean they are comparing themselves to Haiku of all things, geez that's not a good start...
  • jMyles
    I'd really like to get back to an autocomplete flow, ideally with some shared and optimized context with the relationship with my larger agent models.But it seems like, by and large, even the faster models are now aimed at longer-running agentic flows and not sub-1s autocomplete. Or am I wrong about that?
  • Marciplan
    "Build for developers, not benchmarks" Shouldn't that be.. Built?
  • kylehotchkiss
    "superintellegence team"Why not assign them to make windows good :D
  • LoganDark
    "Clean data" is impossible. Language models have polluted the landscape to such a degree it's impossible to filter them out now. OpenAI has no doubt discarded or muddled their dataset that was used to train the original ChatGPT, so there may be no dataset in existence now that isn't contaminated.
  • zb3
    So it's not an open model while not being much better? Meh.
  • freediddy
    is 51% good enough to reliably use? There's no world in which I use an AI agent where it gets even 15% of the code wrong, that's as bad a Tesla FSD where you need to pay attention to the road while engaging FSD. What's the point? My attention is what I'm trying to relieve, not mostly correct functionality. The only thing that matters is whether you can one-shot code like Claude or Codex, I'm not interested in a small but mostly-okay-but-annoyingly-buggy-every-now-and-then AI.
  • vancekai
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  • ghord
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  • pzo
    TLDR; this is just Claude Haiku altrenative, you can probably skip whole article.
  • Ozzie-D
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  • fooker
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  • mattlondon
    Comparing against Claude 4.5? Aren't we up to 4.8? But disingenuous?