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  evilmonkey19
  I really like the idea and that it's eu-made a love it. A fee things I see with kagi which are useful and improvements:- Hire a UI/UX person NOW! My parents and gf like using google and kagi because are easy to use.- add the widgets like the football or the show the local store with the phone number asap. My gf is thinking about moving away from kagi because of this.- the quick ai response is extremely useful.- Indexing websites is super important. People doesnt know where to put the content in a website or how to make accessible. Many times i use google due to this fact.- Make a family subscription.- make it funny, easy to use and welcoming. The branding is SUPER important.Good luck and I really wish you to succeed! Im paying for an account ;)
• dtj1123
  One of the things I like about Mullvad is that I can buy a voucher on Amazon, and use that to pay for the service with a high degree of anonymity. Is/will something like that be possible with Uruky?
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  axegon_
  I'd be more than willing to subscribe and support the project BUT, I need to address the elephant in the room: The reason why I'm against Kagi is the fact that they use Yandex(be it only for images according to their own words) and I'm sure as hell refusing to give a single cent to them. So I guess my question is: sources?
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  alex7o
  I live in the EU and I use kagi, but I think you fail to understand why kagi is good and useful. In the end of the day I need a search engine to find stuff and kagi is better than google for the things I and my AI agents are searching for. If you don't get that no amount of better privacy is worth my time as a person as shit searches mean agents don't works so well a.k.a more expensive or my room becomes toastier for the agents that I run locally. (I can use it for boring personal searches, but I do 2/3 of these a day, so I am not paying 5€ for that)
• sthix
  Regarding UI/UX. One thing that immediately catches my as an Design Engineer (being over 7 years Product Designer before that) is that the site looks bland. Nothing that sticks. Also one UX caveat: you are using your accent-color for primary buttons like the sign-up as well as a display variant for text for the "PRIVATE SEARCH YOU CONTROL". The logo is not a strong one, lacks personality, the font choice is also a little "weird".Just my two cents. But I am glad, that someone is creating an alternative in the EU. Hit me up, if you want to get more design opinions.
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  yegle
  Given that:- Google has been around for 20+ years, so the concept of search engine and the technologies behind it should have been well known.- Computing power and Internet speed has increased significantly and in many homes (at least outside of US) 1Gbps is norm.- Everyone is talking about Google deteriorating over the years and prefer the old Google. The old system from the 2000s should be dirt cheap to run with modern home hardware.- People's need for search engine is highly specific, you presumably would be interested in searching a small subset of the whole Internet.My question is: why haven't a local run search engine be a thing at least in the tech circles?It should be able to bootstrap with e.g. an hourly updated "top 100 websites in 50 categories" index file, and adapt to my daily queries to automatically update the index in the background, and iteratively improves the quality of the results.The rise of the local LLM users proves this model works.
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  Havoc
  Nice - I like this. Especially that I can also use it via API too and that expectations are limits are set out clearly (which seem very generous).On limits - consider changing the short limit on this:> searches to 1 per second, 30 per minute, and 1800 per hour.to 5 per 5 seconds or 10/10. That still works out to one per second but users are less likely to accidentally hit it with two requests that have similar timing. Say one from me and one from API usage.
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  aniviacat
  > EU search providers (Marginalia, Mojeek, EUSP, etc.).Does this mean this is just a meta search engine without its own index?If so, the comparison to Kagi seems misleading.The question would turn from "why not Kagi" to "why not SearxNG".
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  asciimoo
  As a search/metasearch developer, I can heavily recommend Uruky. It is by far the best third party search alternative in terms of how they approach privacy and transparency. Keep up the good work Bruno! <3
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  my_throwaway23
  As much as I'd prefer a smaller, non-american operator (for most anything really), I'm extremely hesitant to pay directly for search.For this service, the "just an ID as account" looks nice and private on the surface, but once you look at payment methods, it's 100% personally identifiable. If it's so privacy-focused - where's the payment option for transferring Monero?As for the code - don't get me started. Source available? NDAs?Smells "Private VPN" funny to me.
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  KomoD
  > EU servers, EU storage, EU payment processing, EU search providers (Marginalia, Mojeek, EUSP, etc.).> All servers and data are physically in the EU. All search providers are based in the EU. Payment processing is done in the EU.Mojeek and Serper aren't EU so that's just false. And I'm not sure all the providers only use EU servers so I don't like the claim for that reason too.> Try in: Google // DuckDuckGo // EcosiaI would remove this, I thought it was for changing what provider I was using, but no, it just sent me to Google.Then at the bottom of the page is where I found this, which I would prefer to have at the top.> Try with: Mojeek // EUSP // Linkup // Serper
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  dethos
  Interesting. I will definitely add it to my list of services to experiment with.I like the account/payment system, where you top up a random account number for a period. Instead of having to go with the whole process of creating and verifying an account with your data and then managing yet another recurring subscription.Congrats on the release, wish you the best.
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  ainiriand
  It is a bit hard to evaluate the potential when you need to top up and do a captcha just for evaluation purposes. The barrier of entry is quite high.
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  ent
  Please don't try to machine translate to my local language. The translations are terrible or outright incorrect.
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  mrngld
  Honestly didn't notice Kagi was US-domiciled. Their meetups I think are typically in Europe and their co-working and office space is in Belgrade.Anyway, Kagi's excellent, their search results for me are significantly better than Google (and customizable), they've leveraged AI in a way thats optional and, to me, class-leading in its ability to help with search. "But we're EU based" is a product strategy that might land you some local government contracts and a few customers whose key motivation is negative emotion towards others but it's never going to be the path to great success. Spotify didn't conquer the globe because they framed themselves as an anti-US anti-iMusic or anti-Pandora or whatever alternative. They conquered because their product was solid. Nobody cared where it's HQ was.
• Munksgaard
  Interesting! All the license stuff aside, there's definitely a desire for more EU-first services like this.
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  sarjann
  I think it could help to maybe allow 10 searches free (without logging in) just for someone to see what the UI is like or show an example of the results page. It adds a bit of friction for someone to have to make an account and pay just to test the product.Kagi lets you test it offline (go incognito and try) " Kagi Search is funded by members, not advertisers: built to find what you need, not sell your attention.Try 50 free searches, and if you love it, sign up for 100 more before choosing a plan. Searches used "
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  Hackbraten
  Have you considered adding Google’s SERP to your indexes (via some third-party provider)?Google’s index is by far the largest, and my impression is that a search engine is hardly useful unless it includes Google’s results.
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  janandonly
  I read in your FAQ that you don't support bitcoin payments yet. Might I suggest you have a look at https://www.lightspark.com/capabilities/embedded-finance ?They make it easy to be compliant with local laws and integrate payment features.
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  bigblind
  It doesn't do great on recent events it seems. The amusement park Walibi Belgium recently announced a company called RMC is doing a makeover of their wooden roller coaster, so I did a search for "walibi belgium rmc", and it found one very out-of-date article about earlier rumours, and a bunch of less relevant stuff.
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  danielrmay
  Does Uruky provide an API, or allow API usage such a way that I can leverage it as part of an agent workflow, or otherwise, in place of something like DuckDuckGo?
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  danielspace23
  I think that, more than EU metasearch engines, we need EU search indexes. EUSP is already something, but they seem to be working rather slowly, compared to how quickly Brave built their own index.It's also trivial to run a perfectly working metasearch engine with the same sources as Uruky, it's called Searxng.In any case, good luck on this project. I personally don't think it's for me. Maybe a better user interface would change the equation, but as of now I'll stick to Qwant.
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  s_dev
  Does Uruky pay Yandex like Kagi does?It's relevant to those of us boycotting Russian products and influence due to the Ukraine war.
• blfr
  Can I (and how to) use it as a search engine for Open WebUI?
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  Alex_toani
  It's a cool search engine. I agreee that need improve in UI/UX. If UI/UX is great. I will consider to use it.
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  wolvoleo
  Interesting. Being EU-based is a huge plus over Kagi in my opinion.I also like that they don't ask any personal data, even email address. I like services that don't want any personal details. Like with Mullvad, where they just give you a random number and that's your account ID <3 Unfortunately Mullvad enshittified in other ways so I had to move to ProtonVPN. But services that act like that are great IMO. Unfortunately a lot of services apply "Know your Customer" BS even though they are not in the financial sector.However I wonder where they get their search data from. But it's worth investigating.
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  dizhn
  Do you have Privacy Pass or some other type of privacy-preserving credentials functinoality?
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  Kudos
  Country filters for Luxembourg and Monaco, no country filter for Ireland?
• AndroTux
  Okay, so in order to do a test search, I have to:1) type in a query and hit enter because there's no search button.2) click signup, even though I want to evaluate it before creating an account.3) apparently now I'm signed up without having to enter any details - what's the point? Just create a new session as soon as I initiate the search.4) so now I need to return to the homepage to trigger another search.5) search again, enter again. Now I'm greeted by a captcha.6) after solving the captcha, I now have to enter my search query a third time because it wasn't saved7) search results!Guys.
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  cromka
  I hate to say this, but those recent EU alternative counteroffers for popular products bare some really unfortunate names....
• carlosjobim
  I think this is excellent so that Kagi can focus on making the best search engine instead of trying to please the angriest and most difficult customers.
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  Cider9986
  I will pay for search once Kagi or Brave accepts Monero and offers a reasonable price. Can I pay for Uruky with Monero? If you're worried about regulations consider reaching out to proxysto.re
• localhoster
  Yavos - Yet Another Vibe-cOded Service :)