HN

Need help?
<- Back
Siri AI

Siri AI

0xedb

Comments (201)

  • himata4113
    I read through the entire DMA rant that apple has here: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de...This feels like it could be solved with a list of permissions that the user has to turn on when using 3rd party AI.Apple already: 1) requires developers to submit ID to publish an app on the appstore (at least I had to after ~1000 downloads to be able to publish an update) 2) has strong kernel enforced memory integrity and disallowes arbitrary code execution (unless explicitely approved for games like roblox, jitting not allowed tho has to be interpreted). 3) reviews every app update. I feel like this is nothing more than Apple being angry that they have to allow people to actually choose what AI they want on their phone. This is particulary interesting if anthropic and openai decided they want to add siri ai override to their apps allowing them to take advantage of the apple ecosystem without signing some kind of deal like they had to with Google. I assume behind closed doors Google had to make some sacrifices for them to be the model powering siri.
  • jesse_dot_id
    I didn't really see anything that knocked my socks off. Mostly, it's the promise that Siri now works in the way in which they said it would work a few years ago, when it didn't. I do like the addition of Siri in the context menu, though. I can see that being useful.
  • speak_plainly
    The demo Mike Rockwell gave at WWDC was interesting. He kinda showed off Siri as like the Star Trek computer for your phone. I hope this is the direction Apple is going to continue in. Having AI as a user interface is way more interesting than chat bots, image editors, or copy editing.
  • wxw
    I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. They have incredible distribution and hardware. They just haven’t executed at the application layer yet.
  • akmarinov
    None for the EUIs it available in China at least or is this another “50% of the userbase gets nothing new in the OS update” year?Edit: https://x.com/wongmjane/status/2064052590992916840?s=46Lol
  • arijun
    They’re adding vibecoded shortcuts (the high level scripting for Apple devices). Hopefully that means they worked out some of the long-existing bugs and missing features, but I’m not optimistic. Still, could be a useful tool, especially for less tech-literate people.
  • seaal
    >Fix passwords with a tap. >The Passwords app alerts you to weak or compromised passwords and can update them on your behalf without the hassle.Finally, I hope this works well. Personally one of the worst things to deal with.
  • alrtd82
    In English!? Someone please Apple that LLMs can deal with multiple languages at once without the old “go to Settings to configure your language”
  • jaredcwhite
    It's funny, I'm so thankful none of my Apple hardware is new enough to run much of this garbage. I'd switch off as much as I possibly could anyway…
  • tanmaydesh5189
    In Feb this year, when I analyzed KuzuDB's source code, I predicted Apple's reasoning to buy them was to introduce Siri with cross-app personal context. "..WWDC 2026 or 2027 introduces any “contextual intelligence” features in Siri that require cross-app relationship reasoning." https://medium.com/data-science-collective/i-analyzed-163k-l.... There is no confirmation on which tech is being used to achive that though
  • xlii
    > We’re deeply disappointed that our EU users won’t have Siri AI on iPhone or iPad when we share our new software releases later this yearI really enjoy this lag. Apple with the whole DMA made iPhone completely dull to my eyes. Previously? Updated yearly. Now? 3+ years without replacement and probably will stick to it for next 2-3 years.Sure maybe in US Apple is fun. But in EU it's.. boring (and not like a Golang boring, just boring)
  • baggachipz
    > coming this fallI believe we also heard that a couple years ago.
  • barumrho
    This looks pretty promising to me. It will likely replace the need to set up OpenClaw for average personal users. The work of getting email, messages, and all the personal data on the phone as context seamlessly is not as straightforward as one might think.I'm curious how the pricing will work. Would it be free up to some limit and then some subscription pricing? I can't imagine it can be free unlimited usage given the price of serving these models.
  • visarga
    Before they add AI they better fix the frigging search function in settings, it is horrible, you need to know their exact words, and Apple has a funny naming sense. Hierarchies nested so deep you never find anything. I come to use Claude or ChatGPT to tell me the right incantations to find a setting.
  • tzm
    If that Siri orb fails to respond after this release, I'm done with Apple.
  • nafizh
    They should have changed the name as per branding. I hear Siri, I subconsciously associate it with really bad software.
  • yalogin
    The chatbots(ChatGPT, Claude et al) showed Apple exactly what can be done, the user base is already well primed. So this is a product definition done for them to execute. If done well they will be able to provide a much stronger integration into the day to day use cases than the chatbots, and can siphon off user time from them. This time around the end to end is easier with Apple Intelligence and more importantly llms doing the work Apple is floundering at. So I am hopeful, but I still see the os/app level integration as not enough in terms of functionality to make it a hit. The primary use case for llms is still conversations and search. Apple should be focusing on that aspect primarily and also add the os/app level integration as a bonus - as something only they can do. If they just do the latter, it will not be as much of a success. Let’s see how they execute.EDIT: To provide meaningful chat functionality they have to either eat up the cost or charge a subscription for it. This will be first time they charge for Siri - a product that doesn’t garner any positive reviews. This gets even more interesting to watch
  • loloquwowndueo
    The only thing I want to know about this new Siri is how to turn it entirely off.
  • anon
    undefined
  • rumblefrog
    The automatically update of my compromised passwords on websites is very impressive, and I wonder how it's achieved.
  • minimaxir
    I wonder how much of Siri AI is Apple-developed and how much of it is Google-developed as a result of Gemini. The a) search demos and b) image generation demos seem unlikely to have been done by Apple alone, the demos being closer to Google Search and Nano Banana respectively.
  • AuthAuth
    Its wild to me that people use those apple emoji people. It looks so bad.
  • gilbetron
    I don't care much about Siri, and not a lot about Apple (other than as an investment), but Apple is generally really good about putting out polished tech, and so I'm curious if Siri AI will be up to their usual standards, because if so, it represents a significant usage of AI that has solved hallucination issues.But that's a big If!
  • reconnecting
    Amazing how this time Apple found the `sweet spot` to release Siri AI when the letter combination A and I has fed up literally everyone.
  • OberstKrueger
    > Available on iPhone 17 Pro, iPhone 17 Pro Max, iPhone Air, iPad models with M4 and later and at least 12GB of unified memory, and Mac models with M3 and later and at least 12GB of unified memory.It’s really disappointing to see the on-device models being limited to so few devices. And this was after the iPhone 16 and 16 Pro were marketed so heavily with supporting their now failed effort at AI.
  • bilsbie
    The killer app would be a locally run Siri that learns about you and your preferences.
  • bilsbie
    It’s weird it says I can ask Siri about a document in front of me but can I ask it about a webpage I’m currently reading?(It’s been driving me crazy there’s no “AI this” button to discuss whatever is on my screen.)
  • insane_dreamer
    So Siri is basically now a Gemini agent?Our family uses Siri with a HomePod a lot, and it's already much better than it was a couple of years ago where it could basically set timers, tell you the weather. Now it answers questions ("when did the Knicks last win an NBA championship") with decent answers, instead of "I'll send the web results to your phone". But it's still far behind voice-chatting with Claude in the Claude app, so very much looking forward to this upgrade.I will say though that proper voice transcription in Claude -- or any of these agents -- sucks. If it can't understand the question properly, then it can't provide the right answer. It works okay for me, but not for my kids, not when speaking quickly or in incomplete sentences (as people tend to do), etc.
  • 2001zhaozhao
    > Private Cloud Compute> Your data is never stored> Used only for your requests> Verifiable privacy promiseApple is cooking. Although at that point might as well bring the cloud features to more devices. Yeah it costs more but also locks users in harder.
  • max8539
    Hm, second try? And Siri AI again without dates. First time it was also “later” but was postponed for how many years?
  • pupppet
    Here's hoping they've finally fixed iOS's terrible dictation.
  • lolive
    Will I be convinced to change my iphone 6s? #suspense
  • h14h
    Apple Shortcuts have felt like a blatantly obvious AI play to me for a while now.The interface for creating them manually has been so bad for so long, it feels clear to me that LLM-driven shortcut orchestration was always the endgame. Apple built up their ecosystem of composable "tools", and then trained an LLM on how to call them.The result, IMO, is the first OpenClaw/Hermes competitor that's feasible for use by the general public.Everyone with a paid Claude or ChatGPT that they're struggling to use to the fullest is going to have very little reason not to swap over to an upgraded iCloud+ plan (if they don't already have one). I suspect we're going to see mass cancellation of $20/mo plans very soon.OpenAI's timing for removing their temporary increased usage limits is looking pretty unfortunate...
  • ftth_finland
    Please don’t suck.
  • trhaynes
    The screenshot about pho is funny to me. Bean sprouts are not a good source of fiber. Noodles are not especially healthy. The broth base is not fish sauce, nor is fish sauce where broth gets most of its sodium. Slop city!
  • AndrewKemendo
    How many companies did they just Sherlock?
  • atulvi
    How is this different from the chatgpt apple intelligence thing from last year?
  • BonoboIO
    ‪A multi trillion dollar company not able to create open apis for competition … definitely the EUs fault ‬
  • simianwords
    Here's what I want: natural language interaction to achieve complex workflows in iPhone. Example: find the cheapest way to go from A to B and book it using the Deutsche Bahn Train app.I still don't think Siri can do that ::angry::
  • CrzyLngPwd
    Great, as long as I can switch it off and use my phone as I always have, I'm happy for them.I can't wait to take a photo of a cricket ball and ask it what it is, ffs.These people need to get out, touch grass, watch trees swaying in the breeze, and put their phones down before they lose toonmany neurons.
  • bilsbie
    Honestly I don’t have much faith in Apple intelligence when it can’t even search my settings.
  • gregorygoc
    Can Apple now focus on rolling back Liquid Glass “upgrade”?
  • 0gs
    all the limitations of on-device with none of the benefits, it seems? they gotta get SOMETHING out there and soon but idk, i would probably feel safer running a chinese model through a 3P iOS app shell vs. trusting Geminiri to not snitch if i cared about the sanctity of my personal information.
  • micromacrofoot
    The most notable thing here is that they finally have the primitives to make Siri actually useful across apps. I can't even use Siri to close Google Maps in my car right now.
  • nobody_r_knows
    This whole "coming this fall", "later this year", it's annoying. I miss the days when Steve Jobs used to say "and it's available right now, you can demo it in the hall outside, we're going ot make a billion dollars by tonight."
  • wilg
    More or less stuck AI in all the obvious spots, which will probably be fine I guess. Not super exciting!
  • jmuguy
    This is disappointing. I had hoped when Apple revisited AI that they would lean into agents more and give us some sort of agent interface between the phone and a model running locally on your Mac at home. More niche for sure, but much more powerful. Instead we're getting more generic AI tie-ins to apps and "suggestions".
  • timwis
    For real this time...
  • hmokiguess
    missed opportunity to call it "VibeSiri"
  • idontwantthis
    If this is good, I might finally ditch my 12 mini.
  • sleepybrett
    The one thing I've been trying to figure out / hoping will get a fix is that in the apple intelligence settings panel there is an 'extension' that allows it to use chatgpt. I would like to be able to have an extension for local models and/or custom apis.
  • k2xl
    I’m honestly surprised Apple didn’t retire the Siri brand.At this point, “Siri” has a pretty strong cultural association with being underwhelming or unhelpful. Even if the new version is dramatically better, convincing people to give Siri another shot may be harder than launching the same technology under a new name.Feels like a missed opportunity to reset expectations.
  • ChrisArchitect
  • ForOldHack
    I was at Best Buy in the Apple section, and I asked its AI "What is the best value in four year old MacBook pros." It pointed me directly at an over-under washer dryer for $3400. Quite obviously, it was trained, like a drooling puppy by Madison Ave.Wait... don't tell me... there is an App for that.
  • andrewstuart
    I go on long walks and talk to ChatGPT in depth in its conversation mode about programming and computing in depth.That’s what I expected from Siri but you can get in from ChatGPT .
  • curvaturearth
    Hey look! Here's something new that we could already do but now it costs more and takes more engineering and.. AI
  • omkarlalla-code
    [dead]
  • brailsafe
    Apple's "New Coke" moment?
  • r0fl
    Newest phones get latest modelsGenius way to sell more phonesReally they are just selling on device Ai