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  YZF
  The problem is that bad architecture can be carried forward for a very long time at increasing cost.The ability to differentiate good and bad architectures seems to be a lost art because to build this ability you need to have enough experience (e.g. the discussion in "The Mythical Man-Month"). Most software developers today have had no experience designing even a single system and many systems are often a random assortment of stuff thrown together by people without enough experience. What I call the "sort of works" architecture. It has big gaps but it sort of works and so there is continuous investment in trying to make it good, which is often a waste of time. You've lumped a bunch of stuff together to build something and now you're stuck with it.AI as it is right now is probably a driver to make this worse because it makes it so much easier to throw random stuff together.
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  csbartus
  In my 30+ years of SWE/SWA career this is the first time I can harvest the benefits of a well defined and exactly implemented architecture.Thanks to LLMs.Before LLMs even if the architecture principles were simple and clear, distilled into templates + codegens added for boilerplate / skeleton generation ... It was impossible to follow them on the long run. Devs tried their best, but on the long run everything eroded and there were no resources for refactoring.Now, with coding agents, I was able to create a production grade app following a similar architecture to Presentation Domain Data Layering, from this article.Now the codebase is 100% uniform both in content (code) and structure (files and folders). It's like being written by a single person. Finding a specific file takes a second with no cognitive load. Editing a file is straightforward since every file follows a specific template.LLMs have benefits and drawbacks, and in this case their help is enormous.
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  aljgz
  "We create products and services that we are proud of"This was one of the 3 core values in the best company I ever worked for. One I would never leave, if the region was not heading for a disaster.Good architecture transcends the software: enables people to be their best, evolve the software to better match the reality of its reason for existence.In an effective organization, people constantly exceed their own expectations. They debate alternatives, understanding the reality of momentum, but aiming for an infinitely long living product.They identify the "main problem", find ways to best solve that.A good architecture does not do much more than what's needed, but avoid unnecessary assumptions that would block future development.It is vague, philosophical, pragmatic, challenging, rewarding.
• mpweiher
  While these somewhat fuzzy definitions are hugely important (well, it says: "the important stuff, whatever that is", so by definition...), I have a hard time calling them "software architecture".I'd like to suggest that at least some of the problems associated with the term, for example the pomposity, are rooted in the "separation from programming" that is not just a suggestion, but an unfortunate fact of architecture today.And I would further suggest that we could improve the situation if we could actually express our architectures in our programs, in our programming languages. Then software architecture wouldn't just be "deeply intertwined with programming", as it must be, but actually be part of programming and part of the program.And once the architecture becomes part of the program, it becomes part of our feedback loops. My experience is that feedback loops are a good antidote to pomposity and great for building/evolving systems.To do that, though, we have to retreat from this idea that software architecture must be fuzzy, an idea that IMNSHO is just a cope for the current sad state of affairs. We have pretty good definitions of architecture (connectors and components, systems, architectural styles, etc.), let's start using them in earnest and in our programs.
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  aleksiy123
  If writing code is tactics and the end goal is strategy.Is architecture operations?
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  gurjeet
  Needs the [2019] suffix.