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  Multiplayer
  My simple take: Hermes is for the less technical and is more polished. OpenClaw is deeper with more capabilities.OpenClaw has come so far since its' original launch/craze. I recommend taking a second look if you haven't touched it in a while. If for no other reason than it's just a really fun playground with a LOT of areas to experiment in. Setup a myriad of agents with various models, skills, cron jobs, etc. The control surfaces have come a long way as well.Hermes is good fun, running that as well but feels like they focused on polish vs features in order to capitalize on the primitive state that OpenClaw was in for its first months.People that got attracted to the hype of openclaw but couldn't endure the fast pace of breaking changes while they figured out the problem space were well served by going to Hermes.
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  cassianoleal
  It's probably good to at least be aware of the plagiarism debacle around Hermes.https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48187581
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  andy_xor_andrew
  I've used Hermes Agent in a container, and it worked ok. Little rought around the edges, but that's to be expected.But what I didn't understand... what benefit does it actually bring? On a default loadout, even after disabling tons of skills in the setup wizard, there were lots of useless garbage skills enabled, over 10k of context used just to list them all.I vibe-coded my own harness that uses ACP so it supports any coding CLI that exposes ACP (copilot cli, opencode, basically every popular one with official or non-official wrappers). And I was able to achieve basically exactly what I wanted from any Claw-like agent, in like a few hours.I know there's way, way more to these self-sufficient agents (compaction, memory system, etc) but in my mind, it feels like the closer you can be to a barebones "coding agent core" plus "gateways that point to it" the better.
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  nullbio
  I still don't understand the point of these. I use AI basically 12 hours a day, and still haven't found a use case for it that isn't solved easily with existing tools, bash scripts, cron jobs, etc. Especially with Codex App now, why do I need OpenClaw? I don't need to be able to call my AI agent on the phone... That's a gimmick.
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  isoprophlex
  I don't get it, why not put codex/claude code/opencode in a docker container and be done with it?
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  jacobgold
  What are you automating with OpenClaw in June, 2026?I used OpenClaw -> Hermes -> my own thing now.I've got things like code review, email inbox/spam filtering, website monitoring for bad links/typos, HN/Bluesky notifications, favorite director/actors/author alerts, etc.I mostly interact with them using Slack and Email.
• rob
  Does Hermes still come bundled with a Polymarket skill enabled by default?https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/docs/reference/skills-...
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  JaceComix
  When I dropped my Claude sub a few months ago I first went to try pi. At first I was a little overwhelmed by having to browse extensions to get the experience I want (coupled with finding new model providers to use).So I looked elsewhere and found Crush and Hermes. They're both very a e s t h e t i c, which I think can make using them fun, but ultimately if I had a nitpick, I would look back over at pi, and the grass looked greener. (And not to mention, both Hermes and Crush seem to have some drama/baggage.)I'm back on pi, and happy with just a few packages I've downloaded for it.
• Rooster61
  This is specifically for migrating to Hermes from OpenClaw. The title should suggest that.
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  Zababa
  I still don't really get the case for OpenClaw/NanoClaw/Hermes Agent/etc. I guess it's a mix of huge stacks of notes/second brain stuff but with a way to query it, and a place where all personal "AI apps" can live ; instead of making AI apps "individually" and deploying them somewhere?I do have a website on which I've been adding more and more stuff for personal use and for sharing with people, but when I want to develop it I do it with any agent I'm using right now (Codex, Claude Code, Pi, etc) and when I want to ask questions about it, it's usually on the public internet so any chat interface can query it. That leaves two things: asking questions about more private stuff, and possibly a "claw" that lives on your computer/on a small server is less of a pain to connect to private stuff than building a MCP and authenticate yourself through it ; and apps that themselves use models, which can be developed by the "code agent" and then I can plug whatever model I want on it.
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  rvz
  Other than the hosting providers, who is making money directly from OpenClaw or Hermes Agent?It only appears that the hosting providers are and not the user spending thousands of dollars on these agents.
• amelius
  OpenJaw.
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  echelon
  Did you invest in teknium's company, JumpCrisscross?Not that I'd blame you. Hermes is really great.
• ju571nk3n
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  __mharrison__
  Is it bad that I want to try Hermes but look at the code and see setup.py and no project.toml and it gives me pause?