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Zombie unicorns are haunting Silicon Valley

Zombie unicorns are haunting Silicon Valley

andsoitis

Comments (32)

  • ____tom____
    We need to stop pretending the VC valuations are meaningful.It's like asking someone playing roulette to value "13 black", after they bet on it.There valuations are always based on expectations of huge growth, not current value. Growth predictions with an extremely low confidence level. VCs make up for it by making a lot of bets.The companies NEVER have current profits (The actual measure of value) that would justify their valuation.So, it's comparing gambling payouts to corporate valuations, aka "apples to oranges", which are not related.When the predicted growth doesn't occur, the companies valuation becomes based on its actual value (profits).
  • rwmj
    Cameo (an example in the article) is an interesting one. It seems like a stable, steady business, making money, should be easy to accurately value if you have access to the financials. No surprise that the "It's $1bn!!!" valuation came from Softbank Vision Fund. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameo_(website)
  • bruce511
    Companies being devalued is not news. It happens on the stock market everyday.For companies that rely on outside investment to survive however it can become a slide to oblivion.If the company itself is profitable, then typically it can continue. There's no interest rate on VC investment, and if profitable it can run forever. Customers, employees, users and so on are all fine. Investors? Well, they're potentially getting some returns through dividends, but its minor and not what they were chasing.Of course the VC investment model is high risk. That's kinda the point. It's a bet on IPO or (valuable) acquisition. Most companies end up as neither.Will this affect new VC funds in the future? Maybe in the short term. But there are still enough IPOs (like SpaceX now) and still enough greedy people willing to play the lottery. Sure the absolute amount of VC money may come down, but I don't think the model is going away.Indeed it may start to lead to saner valuations along the way.
  • tqi
    My impression is a lot of these companies raised mega rounds right before interest rates went up, and are now able to tread water by cutting headcount enough that their revenue + interest can sustain them. To what end? Who knows...
  • tartoran
  • griffinJH23
    It's simple really. If the VC's don't move the money, then it's dead money to them. These are calculated risks that they absorb under the premise of regret minimization. They don't really have a choice but to take occasional losses. It's nearly intentional.
  • latentframe
    Zero interest rates kept many weak companies alive but they also have give great companies time to find product market fit, and the hard part is to separate the two in hind sight
  • walrus01
    ZunicornZune-icorn?Zombicorn!I know of some actual in use Microsoft Zune that have outlasted many companies that were predicted to become unicorns.
  • EagnaIonat
    Why post a link that people have to pay to read?Same article:https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/opinion-features/zombie-uni...
  • epsteingpt
    If you think it's haunting Silicon Valley, wait til you see what's on the balance sheets of Private Equity, which holds these and many, many more overvalued companies!
  • fnord77
    So, series h, i, j companies are worthless?
  • andsoitis
    Falling valuations spell horror for vcs. More recently launched funds have been returning markedly less money to investors than those of earlier vintages, according to the World Economic Forum. They have also underperformed the s&p 500 by a wide mark, particularly those that did not invest in a small club of artificial-intelligence superstars
  • jcgrillo
    children of the zombie corn
  • anon
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