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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

alain94040

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  • dang
    All: for comments on the technical side please go to the related thread:Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48689028
  • jmward01
    This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More broadly though, how will this stop anyone but average people? Countries outside the us will completely ignore this and keep developing and moving ahead. Maybe Europe will adopt similar things but the genie is out. I can train insainly powerful models on my laptop. If you want to stop LLMs with legislation you can't do it like this.
  • razighter777
    I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space.It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation.There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversations between the Executive Branch and AI companies.
  • A_D_E_P_T
    > Only companies approved by the government will get access. There is no process for individual users to get access to the new model.I knew the time would come when individuals on personal subscriptions get the short end of the stick. Didn't think it would come so soon. I hope we're not too badly deprecated in the months to come.Looks like I've got to improve my DeepSeek workflows.
  • aristocrazy
    Given how the WH operates these days, this is ripe for corruption. Imagine the WH dislikes the CEO of a biotech company, while appreciating the attitude of a competitor CEO. What is to stop them from stalling on giving acess for the latest model to the company they don't like?
  • mrinterweb
    The biggest concern is identifying "who". If the US government says only US citizens can access a model, how do they enforce that. Anthropic and OpenAI will use Persona (a company funded by Peter Thiel) to verify user identity. Verifying your identity with a government ID and linking that to AI is the dream of a surveillance state. Agents running on your computer, accessing your internet accounts, access to your personal conversations with AI, and accessible by the government is just wild.I'm hoping this is a call to action for local AI.
  • rgbrenner
    Im not worried about this at all. The OpenAI, Anthropic and the US government can play this game all they want... They're just accelerating the development of open source models; and helping destroy the lead the US has built in AI, and their profit margins along with it.This is like the battle between PostgreSQL and Oracle all over. Move up market, isolate yourself to enterprises, and watch while everyone else builds on PostgreSQL and erodes any technical advantage you had, until people just stop talking about you altogether.
  • minraws
    Well I was expecting it but if it's not going to become available in this subscription cycle for me I will cancel oai subs as I did with claude ones months ago...moving to open weight models is trivial now, with optimizations and stuff glm 5.2 is roughly the same price as the best models around from multiple vendors.unless I could atleast try and see Sol perform like 10x better I don't really have a reason to switch back.I used Fable for like what 2-3 days at most and didn't really feel it was so much better, only difference was I had to prompt it less, not to get what I want but to get to a working output. Code quality was still shit, still made bad plans and analysis and so on.
  • pixelpoet
    Are these models still relevant for people outside the US? I get the impression we're stuck on GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8 pretty much permanently now, and relying on Chinese models in future.
  • rbbydotdev
    Reminds of the TikTok ban for security and safety only for it to be sold to a fellow crony. Can't help but see this play going down again. Threaten / Ban / Control / Pressure a technology+company, then get your cronies a seat at the board.The cynic in me suspects they were salivating so much over the Spacex IPO they wanted a finger in anthropics 2026 IPO. Banning fable ~1 day after.
  • wewewedxfgdf
    Remember how China turned its tech industry into a smoking ruin - make making them all submit to political priorities:Ant Group: China halted Ant’s IPO and forced a restructuringAlibaba: China fined and politically disciplined AlibabaDidi: China punished Didi after its US listing by removing its apps, freezing users, forcing delistingTutoring platforms: banned profit from core school-subject tutoring.Tencent gaming: restricted youth gaming froze approvalsNetEase and gaming companies: licence freeze stopped game companies from shipping games.Meituan: fined Meituan and forced changes to its labour and platform model.Huya/DouYu: blocked Tencent’s game-streaming merger, stopping commercial consolidation in a major entertainment market.Boss Zhipin / Full Truck Alliance: froze new users after listging in the USCrypto companbies: banned crypto trading and mining, forcing exchanges offshore.Think it's not happening to the US?tourism - people afraid to visittariffs - wrecking ball to all businessesdefence - why would anyone buy US weapons after Greenland and Canadainternet clouds - Greenland made Europe decide that the US clouds can't be trusted, now sovereign computing matters and MS/AWS/Google are feeling itfinance - no one trusts the US not to turn people into "non members of global society" by banning them from visa and credit card and banking systems
  • andy99
    In the early days of the LLM era, there was lots of talk about how big incumbents, in particular google would be disadvantaged relative to “startups” like OpenAI because of their valuable legacy businesses that could be destroyed if something went wrong. Mainly people thought about big lawsuits but government action is similar.Now OpenAI and Anthropic are big incumbents with Trillion dollar valuations at stake, so they can’t take any risks. Unlike google they don’t really have a thriving primary business to protect though, so without being able to continue to take risks and ignore regulation startup-style, it’s going to be a lot harder for them to stay relevant.
  • trashface
    Pretty happy for anything that will throw some sand into the gears of AI development, given all the negative externalities that are becoming apparent, even if the admin is doing it for the usual dumbass reasons.
  • pluc
    It's entertaining watching the whole world take steps to reduce reliance on the US and the US throwing arguments for it out like it's candy
  • olalonde
    Brilliant strategy if the goal is to make sure the next major breakthrough happens anywhere but in the US.
  • asdff
    This was coming for a while. For years now there have been job postings for ai safety and not really what people expect. Jobs in places like RAND, funded off DOD grants, exploring the feasibility of building a bioweapon with off the shelf tooling and measuring how far along these tools are. Maybe they figured out it was too easy now, and this is the clamping down we are seeing in response.
  • aunty_helen
    Age verification for social media.Approval lists for AI models.Two sides of the same coin. The administration is taking the opportunity now on the back of fear mongering done by the labs. The labs get regulatory lock-in, the govt gets surveillance. Everybody (that matters) wins.
  • revolvingthrow
    This is a real head scratcher. Unless this is a very short term action it seems to have only downsides for everybody:- people pay much more for US models than Chinese models because right now they're the best. Once they're no longer the best (since you don't get access to them) why would anyone pay several times as much for the same result?- once you get a high amount of tokens flowing into China instead of US companies, they will train on those chats and their rate of improvement will only accelerate, making US models even less attractive over time- the sky-high IPO are dead in the water, since their story of "we will replace a good chunk of all knowledge work in the world, capturing a few % of total global spend relating to it" turns into "we will make a bunch of money out of a few dozen S&P 500 paying for the best, and some pocket money out of whoever uses our overpriced models that are as good as Chinese models" - far less money overall. Losing access to untold billions of investor money certainly won't improve performance for the US labs- all the non-US people start asking themselves why they're funneling money to US corporations who barely share any of the secret sauce compared to Chinese corporations who share plenty when it comes to LLM, including the models themselves (at least for now)- Chinese models have significantly less guardrails, making for better end-user experience- there is a small but non-zero chance Euros get off their asses and invest into AI, making something halfway decent and further fracturing the market which cuts into US profitsSo what's the benefit here? I thought the Mythos situation was the current admin taking revenge on Antrophic for not kissing the ring, or simply looking for a bribe, but no matter which way I look at it it's a self-own. The only way this would make any sense is if AGI is imminent, which I don't think even the boosters are arguing at this point.Theoretically US could outlaw Chinese models, but I'm not sure what it's supposed to accomplish as the rest of the world certainly won't, especially as long as they release open weights models that you can run without phoning home.
  • nilkn
    So the frontier will just decisively shift to open Chinese models in the near future, and once that happens, there will be no catching up.
  • sigmarule
    > Organizations interested in model access may join the GPT 5.6 waitlist line, hosted at OpenAI's official Palm Spring satellite campus. Line begins at rear entrance with expedited VIP waitlist line options for holders of partnering cryptocurrency tokens. Application fee required for access to venue; waivers available for select US corporations./s, maybe
  • RickS
    US citizens to remain nonviolent at any cost, issue strongly worded internet comments, and find themselves a little less free every day.
  • swingboy
    Here’s to hoping that Alibaba (and other Chinese labs) have collected some really good distilled data.
  • cryo32
    No one trusts the US government. I’ve been warning of this sovereign risk for years.This will tank the market.See you all on the other side!
  • type4
    Great, so when do we lowly code-serfs get access to it?
  • aabhay
    To all of those thinking that GLM/OSS will save you — keep in mind that the model size needed to compete here likely requires an NVL72 or similar — 72GPU dedicated infra to run a hosted model. This will almost certainly get regulated by the gov’t as well, and even if not so there will only be a handful of companies that can afford it.
  • sajithdilshan
    This is the last wake up call for EU. After China starts controlling their models, in 5 years EU would be left with archaic technology compared to other major economies
  • atleastoptimal
    I feel this could turn into a patronage system.Want frontier intelligence? Better not defy the current administration, or your competitors will have access to a better model you could never use.
  • pippo1974
    The rest of the word at some point will increase chinese AI company. I am using some of their services and for many task they are good enough . It can be a winning strategy for a short period and a disaster in long term. Xi and China i think , are very happy of these decisions. They are building their model and their hardware. Even if for now it is subpar ( i don't know, it is an hypotesys), money that us will lose for this choice will make Chinese products improve a lot .
  • mkotlikov
    US will ban Chinese models and try to get their allies to do the same. Just like they did with Huawei. Alternatively, they'll put up legal roadblocks that open models are unlikely to jump over due to costs or other reasons.Otherwise they're putting US frontier labs at a huge disadvantage by preventing them from recouping costs on their biggest models.How much more will OpenAI and Anthropic models cost when they're the only AI you can legally use?
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  • modeless
    > We don’t believe this kind of government access process should become the long-term default. It keeps the best tools from users, developers, enterprises, cyber defenders, and global partners who need them.I'm very glad to see them say this explicitly and prominently.
  • jdelman
    While purely speculation, I believe the same thing would have happened, albeit even sooner, under a Harris administration. Government intervention was inevitable and it will have to be worked out through the law.
  • SkitterKherpi
    So them banning Fable for only non-Americans is what we non-Americans should expect to be the norm going forward? Way to build even more resentment abroad.I'm very pro-west, but at this point okay, I guess the rest of us have to side with China, not because we remotely like it, but because they don't try to be quite so antagonistic to us in everything they do.
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  • Fraterkes
    "We believe in broad access, and we plan to make GPT‑5.6 Sol, Terra, and Luna generally available in the coming weeks. As part of our ongoing engagement with the U.S. government, we previewed our plans and the models’ capabilities ahead of today’s launch. At their request, we are starting with a limited preview for a small group of trusted partners whose participation has been shared with the government, before releasing more broadly. During this preview, we will continue testing and coordinating closely with partners as we work toward broader availability. We don’t believe this kind of government access process should become the long-term default. It keeps the best tools from users, developers, enterprises, cyber defenders, and global partners who need them. We are taking this short-term step because we believe it is the strongest path to broader availability in the coming weeks, while we work with the Administration to develop the cyber Executive Order framework and a repeatable process for future model releases."This amount of courting the current administration is pretty scary imo.
  • stevetron
    I'm waiting for that government subcommittee hearing where they are supposed to decide if my new cpu design is big endian or little endian. And they can't seem to decide if it should be coded in octal or hexadecimal. There's a separate committe deciding if the cpu clocke's phase 2 should be 90-degrees or 180 degrees different. There's a special group trying to decide how may accumulators the cpu should have. And there's a markdown already going on to decide if the flags register should have a separate flags for republicans and democrats.
  • NooneAtAll3
    "government needs to step in and regulate ai""wait, not like that"
  • nativeit
    Well, as long as the government is deciding, that’s alright then. The US government is a paragon of incorruptible integrity and even-handed, thoroughly considered reasoning. We’re in good hands, folks.
  • akmarinov
    Sooo both OpenAI and Anthropic going bankrupt soon?If they can’t freely sell access to their models and Chinese models catch up to Opus 4.8/GPT 5.5 in 6-8 months - then why pay OAI/Anthropic at all?
  • petilon
    Last year Tim Cook gifted Trump a custom, one-of-a-kind glass plaque with a 24-karat gold base [1]. (Cook needed a policy outcome that would protect Apple's supply chain costs and avoid a costly 100% tariff on certain chips and components.)You may have to make similar offerings if you want to use the latest version of ChatGPT.[1] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0O9QhwIkj5w
  • khurs
    "All publicity is good publicity"Whilst this policy is driving countries around the world to develop new AI strategies as USA cannot be relied upon, on the plus side for OpenAI, the publicity of this will help drive customer sales.
  • mips_avatar
    OpenAI/Anthropic are begging to be restricted because it's great marketing and it creates a precedent to permanently ban open weights models. The problem is nobody in government believes in/cares about commodity pricing of truly open AI and how much it could help the world economy and prosperity.Companies like Microsoft have been asleep at the wheel in terms of security for decades and now there's a model that can identify where they've been careless. That's not a "nuclear bomb level threat" or whatever Anthropic wants to call it, it's reckless carelessness by the existing companies.
  • midasz
    So as a European, I'm being blocked from all new models apparently. I'm a big fan of using Claude Code for my sideprojects and for those I don't really care about sharing context. Is there aything that comes close to Claude Code and is still affordable?
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  • luxuryballs
    That feeling when you’re a frontier AI company and your marketing team is just way too good.
  • OkWing99
    Why do I get the feeling the administration is doing this to buy a position in the AI companies before they go public.If non US citizens shouldn't have the models - wouldn't that cause both Anthropic and OAI to fire non-citizens?
  • kisamoto
    The irony to have the EU criticised for regulation on one side but complete government control of access on the other.
  • badprose
    Do we know how much choice OpenAI has with the arrangement? They call it a "request", but could they have been ordered directly?
  • digitaltrees
    Open source is looking great right now
  • AJRF
    Fair enough, i'm off to use GLM. Let's see how this plays out US gov
  • softwaredoug
    > while AI companies and the administration work out a longer-term plan for regulation on the sector.It’s not really the executives job or role to create new regulatory structures. If they want something durable, that lasts more than one administration, they need actual laws passed by Congress.
  • pipes
    Can anyone explain to me (a non US citizen) how this won't be found to be unconstitutional (eventually)?. I would think it falls under freedom of expression. And given the attempted classification of encryption as a munition that failed, I don't see how this can possibly last?
  • michaelfm1211
    Oh no, the powerful tool that can be used for good or evil is restricted by the people whose job it is to restrict dangerous things! This is the end of freedom! We're all doomed!
  • I_am_tiberius
    Damn. This is the second post today that just disappeared from the top of the landing page. This is 100% manipulated.
  • mcintyre1994
    It's quite funny to think about the reaction this would be getting from people like David Sacks, if it was literally anybody except Trump.
  • jansenmac
    Will these ad hoc decisions by the U.S. government, without law or clear process, not hurt the coming IPO's of Anthropic and OpenAI?
  • cdnsteve
    Local AI and open-weight models are becoming something to no longer ignore. I've started a community around this @tokenstead on X and tokenstead.ai YouTube and much more coming. DGX Spark on route, RTX 5090s and much more exciting builds. We need to have AI sovereignty!
  • couchdb_ouchdb
    It's pretty easy to solve. You just keep pushing new versions of Opus 4.8....
  • luc_
    Top 2 comments fail to acknowledge the elephant in the room.It's not about the tech. We have a corrupt administration gatekeeping two powerful models for companies set to go public soon.I bet the models are powerful.I also bet there is a lot of money being exchanged, too, for keeping the bubble big, so certain people will profit.Trump doesn't care about the people. He cares about himself.
  • mirekrusin
    "for the benefit of all humanity *"* with big pockets
  • finnjohnsen2
    Less money to US AI tech. This could be good long term to move us away from them.
  • firefax
    never thought being a script kiddie would make me smart, but here we are in 2026.i had one place, they were using all these shady pay with a credit card for "points" to do these web gui things that were... basically nmap, dig, etc?so i wrote up a small shell script that took in the servers our (often nonprofit) clients wanted scanned...and so we could lower our costs and free up analyst time -- but sadly they often found out they had out of date windows boxen they couldn't afford to fix, and we'd have to settle for getting them onto MFA, using password managers and basics like that.people overvalue AI imho. people are getting weak, they don't teach themselves the concepts that would allow them to make best use of AI.anyways, i think the type of person freaking out is the same who's been cutting and pasting from stack overflow rather than learning enough to grab a book or read up on a library to get the needful done.but hey, what do i know? i'm just some freak on hacker news(proudly writing w/o AI :-))
  • hmokiguess
    Great so we just need to wait for China to catch up I guess
  • siliconc0w
    What are the odds this is going to become another avenue for grift - magically any companies the trump family invests in are going to get access. Any companies that aren't sufficiently 'loyal' to the regime will have to wait or may never get access.
  • paxys
    David Sacks has been silent for a long time.. So much for being the big “AI czar”. Does he have any influence left in the government?
  • yokoprime
    This makes no sense, it only will embolden any attempts by china and other countries to move away from depending on US AI tech
  • monksy
  • platinumrad
    I can't tell if this is bad for the big labs, or good because it means they now have an excuse for not showing meaningful progress in the lead ups to their IPOs.
  • martinjc
    Wowzers. It's been some time since export controls were something i'd see in software. Interesting times.
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  • tomComb
    > We don’t believe this kind of government access process should become the long-term default.Really glad to see some reasonably prominent pushback against this government overreach.The information has been reporting that the government wants to individually approve which companies get access and when.Imagine the wonderful opportunities for corruption and influence peddling, not to mention, excluding any companies that don’t support Trump
  • snickerbockers
    >“We don’t believe this kind of government access process should become the long-term default. It keeps the best tools from users, developers, enterprises, cyber defenders, and global partners who need them,” the blog post said. “We are taking this short-term step because we believe it is the strongest path to broader availability in the coming weeks.”Arent these the same clowns who keep saying that the government needs to regulate AI to protect society [from their competitors] or whatever? And im not just talking about back when they used to be a nonprofit, Altman was still using that line post-sellout too.
  • obilgic
  • abcd1234
    For access email: jlarson@openai.com
  • __abc
    what's weird, is my employees abroad (outside the US) have access to Anthropic Fable .... so what exactly did we prevent by limiting United States citizens from having access ....
  • dwa3592
    This will be a thing of the past sooner than you expect.
  • kouru225
    So I guess the Chinese government will decide what model I use next
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  • forinti
    Does this mean that the government will compensate OpenAI for lost revenue?
  • I_am_tiberius
    This post isn't even on the landing page for some reason.
  • dvh
    It seems like sota ai will go the way of reserve antibiotics
  • JodieBenitez
    U.S. government will decide who will feed the chinese competition.
  • daft_pink
    I’m generally prefer republicans, but not in favor of this!
  • kristopolous
    So much for the party of small government.
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  • NDlurker
    Looks like China wins the AI race
  • sonink
    There is an assumption that everyone is making here - that China will not do the same. It is entirely possible, that China restricts their frontier models - as and when they are developed - to only Chinese citizens. And India follows along.IMO AI is different from everything else. It is a weapon as potent as nuclear. It is only natural that it be treated as one.
  • cdrnsf
    Ah, so the specter of Biden doing it was bad, but this administration putting into practice is great.
  • pu_pe
    Without access to leading models, I think open source LLM development will also slow down. I'm not sure which portion of their success right now is due to RLAF and distillation but it's certainly not zero.
  • kgwxd
    All these dorks think they're Iron Man. Guess they're on the Civil War stage of his character development.
  • duxup
    Just seems like gatekeeping for graft and favors / corruption.
  • thegabriele
    In a scenario where some breakthrough in fusion energy will be discovered I envision:- instant, total world war if it's not coming from USA- let's finish all oil's reserve first otherwise
  • ur-whale
  • KronisLV
    So, where's the export restrictions?
  • transcriptase
    Those taking issue with the clear deference to the current U.S. administration would seemingly prefer it be the exact same degree of preemptive compliance and collaboration, just done behind closed doors as it was with the Biden administration. The sausage is apparently far more palatable when you only find out about the overreach, pressuring, implied threats, and censorship years later in House Judiciary Committees. Or even better if you don’t through use of NSL gag orders or implied threat of lawfare!
  • davidw
    There's a huge difference between 'pro market' and 'buddies with some big businesses' and this administration is making it very clear, at least to those who would see.https://blog.supplysideliberal.com/post/47857230937/luigi-zi...
  • sunshine-o
    Honest question: for those working with those models on offensive security, how much does this move make sense?I am asking because I have seen a growing number of stories about organizations getting owned by either raw mismanagement of security, supply chain attacks that are often a failure at the ecosystem level, npm, etc.I am not really seeing from what we hear about the use of AI for penetration as a threat yet. The growing problem with security seems to be more at the management and ecosystem layers.Not many story that netfilter, ipfw or pf got owned by one of those frontier models.A lot of stories that organisation X and Y left keys on a public repo for months.
  • mannanj
    A big problem is "U.S. government" muddies the conversation because of how undefinable and large that group is.Who is deciding who gets to use GPT-5.6? Which organizations? Which leaders?Focus on that to have a clearer conversation. Without doing this it's like jerking each other off to stroke our egos. You might as well as say "The World will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6"
  • LocalH
    Can we just go ahead and shut the US down right now? We had a good run, but we've clearly been moving in the wrong direction for almost as long as I've been alive.
  • vldszn
    huge momentum for local and open-source LLMs
  • iLoveOncall
    Thanks to the US government for helping kill Anthropic and OpenAI by preventing them from recouping any R&D money from new models. Doing god's work.
  • vitally3643
    You know what? Fine. This delays the OpenAI/Anthropic/etc hegemony and creates more space for local LLM adoption and development.My company is very interested in local LLMs even just to cut back on codex spend. I imagine a lot of other businesses are, too. With the recent developments in open weight models, it seems like it's only a matter of time before they're frontier level, and any added delay in OpenAI and Anthropic models being publicly available is just more reason for businesses and individuals to try them out.Just like the Iran war accelerating fossil fuel abandonment, this administration can't even do the wrong thing without fucking it up. I say we take this win.
  • IAmGraydon
    Of course the idiots in Washington have bought the hype - hook, line, and sinker.
  • deadbabe
    This isn’t just about AI: they do not want you to privately use computers at all, in a way that cannot be surveilled. They want to extinguish all forms of general purpose computing and restrict you to walled gardens of apps and all code written via AI with the government-in-the-middle. It will be illegal to write code by hand, only people with “bad intentions” do that, because otherwise, why not just use AI like a sane person?
  • alfiedotwtf
    How is this not a First Amendment issue?!
  • sscaryterry
    This will be the end of the US's short-lived AI supremacy. OpenAI and Anthropic are already wildly unprofitable, cutting off the world-wide income stream is just fucking bad business.
  • croes
    Will be hard to become profitable if you have a limited customer base
  • stuckkeys
    That is why running local models is going to be very important...This crooked administration doing crooked things. Nothing to see here.
  • kilroy123
    Great now we're priced out of getting good enough hardware to run the top open sourced models locally.It's a matter of time before the Chinese models are banned.
  • dominotw
    Saltman prbly had to beg and bribe for this. imagine fable getting banned and this just going though. That would be like accepting defeat.
  • testfrequency
    +1 point to China!In all seriousness, I can’t believe the AI firms are abiding by this peacefully. If I truly loved my company, and I felt we were on the bleeding edge of incredible, life changing products, why would I allow my company to be set up for failure by remaining somewhere that clearly wants control over the sovereignty.The US gov sees these AI companies as bartering power, not as innovation. Wouldn’t you as a parent always want what’s best for your child, not for yourself?It also feels like they can’t just relocate out of the country, as the administration will surely sanction anyone from business within the country again. These firms are so over inflated with evaluations and opex, they’ve dug themselves into a corner.This is not to say regulation does not exist in any other country, but it’s clear now after what’s happening at Anthropic + OAI that the US gov has taken these companies hostage.This is only further playing into the hands of open source and the outside models; the US gov is going to be to blame for when they all lose the race to low cost/free.
  • mannanj
    Everything is a rich man's trick.This is rich social classes claiming more for themselves.Someone convince me otherwise?
  • smashah
    It's ok I will wait for the Chinese resellers :)Thank you Chinese Robin Hoods
  • throwaway7356
    Can't the AI companies spare a small investment in Trump coin to ease the process?
  • haxhiuargjend
    crazy times
  • MichaelZuo
    Something about this makes my stomach churn… This is not a good sign for the future of the USA.I hope the country doesn’t become the new USSR.
  • tjs275x2076
    fake news
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  • kristofferR
    What a party pooper the current US government is... I'm not excited right now at all, while normally a new GPT release would be so much fun to test out.
  • SpaceManNabs
    it kinda seems like openai is doing this willinglyy and not challenging it. if they weren't doing this willingly, how would this be legal? has congress already passed a law giving the executive branch regulatory powers like this?
  • jmyeet
    It's fascinating to watch the US government paint China as the new bogeyman and utterly fail in it's policy of containment.The first obvious conclusion is that China has been utterly vindicated to keep US tech giants out of China. Some have a token presence but it's clear that the Chinese government will never let a US tech government "win" in any domestic market. It will always be a Chinese company. Obligatory Silicon Valley [1].The second is that, to that end, IMHO the US government made an error blocking the sale of high-end chips (particularly NVidia) to China. Why? Because it's created a captive market for Chinese chip manufacturing. Huawei now has billions in potential sales that might've otherwise gone to chips produced in Taiwan and South Korea.Third, the US can somehow ban a Dutch company (ASML) from selling EUV to China. This has forced China to replicate it and they will within a few years. The interesting part of this is that all it really takes is throwing money at a few key researchers and engineers who worked for ASML. It really is using the mechanics of the Western economic system against itself.Last, the US government will try and make US tech giants "own" or "win" AI. And they will fail because the Chinese government will make sure they fail. How? By releasing ever-better open models for free. I believe China considers this a matter of national security to not be beholden to US tech giants (and thus the US government).The ironic thing to me is that the US is doing what the West accuses China of doing with corporate control. I'd say the actual difference is that Chinese companies are beholden to the state whereas the US government is basically 5 companies in a trenchcoat. The US wants to mint trillionaires at the expense of literally everybody else. China believes society should benefit from something they collectively make possible.Anyway, we've been here before. Remember the crypto export ban of the 1990s and 2000s? Did that prevent higher-quality encryption from being used overseas? No. This won't help either.[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5XQxRrQvw
  • kyrra
    It seems like this was entirely caused by Dario (and Anthropic as a whole)? When you run around marketing something as a "super weapon", the government may actually take you seriously?We obviously can't A/B test this... but if Dario hadn't been doing that, would any of this been happening right now?
  • oceanplexian
    I started to have the opinion that the Chinese models would crash the AI bubble simply because they are an order of magnitude cheaper and almost as intelligent.But if the government can simply ban models from the market? especially given how much the admin loves the idea of Tariffs? Knowing Trump the chance of this happening is 99.9%We will all be stuck paying $50/mtok to Anthropic (And by we I mean only Big Tech will be able to afford tokens). The rest of the competition will be outcompeted by super intelligent machines. And AI CO’s /Big Tech will take over the economy.
  • bilekas
    Wow.. Okay so it's official now that the playbook is "we will try to prevent anyone who we don't like to use advanced tech".I understand if its military hardware and software, that's the property of the US government however this is the property of a private company.. Now seemingly being commandeered and issued at the will of the government, sounds very Russian/Chinese to me.Is there a precedent for this before in a democratic country ?
  • sandworm101
    This will be exactly as effective as the BBC's efforts to ensure only UK taxpayers are allowed to stream Doctor Who from BBC servers on Christmas morning.
  • impulser_
    Again, if you think we the people are getting access to AGI you're a fool.These models aren't even that smart and they are already trying to control them and lock them down to a handful of people.Then these executive and VC wonder why people hate AI and are against them.Because the future is heading toward intelligence for the rich and you stuck with whatever model they want you to have.The next step is banning open source models.The future is not looking so bright if these models are already going locked down to whoever the government what's to have them.This is no different than the government banning books because they don't want you to learn.
  • quantumwoke
    This is for the preview period, but it's not a good sign. Opus 4.8 may be the last frontier model available to the masses...
  • pknerd
    The US is turning into China. LOL!Censorship. Surveillance. (Hi, PLTR!)
  • yieldcrv
    never would I have thought China would win that easilyGLM on LLM Asics is going to be amazing, US hosted or otherwise
  • flipbrad
    "A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism"
  • ChrisArchitect
    Related:OpenAI Leans Toward Waiting Until Next Year for IPOhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48678873
  • kleiba2
    "...and the land of the free!"
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  • dude250711
    So, that DeepSeek thing, you are saying it's not that bad?
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  • eth0up
    When I predicted this several months ago, here (mine my comment history) I was berated and downvoted, but primarily ignored. I have records, timestamped, of predicting this a year ago. Alright, great for me, pat myself on the back and get stuffed. Roger that.What disturbs me is that this was not extremely obvious and predictable to everyone else. I have been called schizophrenic for my views on AI, here, and I kind of see how some could miss my points, but I am genuinely perplexed by the views on the subject I see around here, or specifically the views I don't see here.Did anyone really not see this coming long ago? I have year-old transcripts discussing exactly what's happening with AI and government intervention. I even have a time-stamped transcript with Sonnet 12 hours prior, soft-predicting the shutdown of Fable. What is not clear about this?
  • general1465
    Good luck with those 1T USD valuations when your total addressable market now shrunk from 8 Billion people to just 300 million.
  • mrcwinn
    Wait, what happened to wanting a safety first mindset and government regulation of big tech?
  • jquery
    Trump admin just banned individual users like me from using it, indefinitely, under vague authority. When did we become such a nanny state?
  • cft
    If true, I think Trump is nuts. He's alienating the very people in the Silicon Valley that helped him to win.
  • martythemaniak
    Honestly, are people not getting what's going on? The US is turning into a personalist regime, there is no "government" per-se, there's a dude. There are no 'rules' there's only the dude's opinion and you'll do whatever he feels like today.The way you know this is true is to imagine The Others in power. Sacks used to scream about government interference, but now that he's running (this part of) the government, obviously things are different.The only constant is that David Sacks (& co) always believed he should have all the power.
  • ChrisArchitect
    Please avoid reddit posts of screenshots of articles OP.[dupe] Earlier discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48678789
  • kmeisthax
    > We don’t believe this kind of government access process should become the long-term default. It keeps the best tools from users, developers, enterprises, cyber defenders, and global partners who need them.My brother in Christ, then why did you (and your competitors) spend years telling the government you needed them to tie your hands behind your back? Did you really think they'd just give you a crown that says "Gatekeeper Of All Neural Networks"?
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  • piokoch
    One more wake up call for anyone outside USA, especially Europe. AI will be weaponized, on the battle ground too, but the bigger battle will be fought in the industry competition. Those who have access to state of the art models will have advantage over those who does not.Hopefully open-weight models will catch up, hopefully we, as the people, engineers will find the way to maintain those open-weight models on pair with the closed ones.I try to be optimistic, as we won some battles, against all odds, Linux is flourishing, open source solutions are mainstream.
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    Keep your **** models to yourselves.... the world really has moved on to open models which can give you good enough results at a fraction of the cost and zero BS licensing.
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