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- p0w3n3d1. LOL I've just downloaded literally whole internet and copyrighted books and put them through a neural network. Now I have this whole knowledge in my LLM. 2. Hey? Are you using my NN for training your NN? you're a thief!
- bhoustonAll remote AI are a massive security risk for individuals/companies/governments that may be targeted by the US government.It is likely that the US will get a live feed from each AI provider that they are inspecting in real time to identity things of interest, terrorist attacks or foreign government planning or even foreign companies competitive to key US companies.It will give them access to the though process in those companies as well as much of their text-based IP (source code, docs, meeting transcripts, etc)Also if you are using local AI that you didn’t train yourself you can never be sure it doesn’t have purposeful biases in its reasoning that may disadvantage you - such as directing you away from certain plans or ideas or patents etc.
- eunosWhat Claude Code did is absolutely mindboggling tho, if Chinese harness did that probably POTUS would lose sleep.
- johnathan101Regardless of whether this specific claim is true, enterprises are becoming much more cautious about developer tools that can read large portions of proprietary codebases.
- jdw64I got curious and asked my Chinese friends, and they gave me a Reddit link[1]. It looks like it's about location data collection, and they suggested that might be the reason for the issue.[1]https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1ujila1/anthropic...
- ravenstineEmployers in 2022:> No! Don't install that lodash thing without explicit approval from IT. Oh, you want a license for Charles Proxy? Gee, I dunno... we've got a budget to maintain.Employers in 2023:> No! You can't use ChatGPT at work – it's a security risk.Employers in 2024:> Okay, you can use Github Copilot I guess, but you'll have to endure boring corporate training on what you're allowed to do with it.Employers with dollar signs in their eyes in 2025:> We attended a seminar about vibe coding. Why aren't you dumbasses keeping up with the times? Use Claude Code for everything! Don't write any of your own code anymore. We don't even really care if you use yolo mode. Just review code and push 10x more features! Use unlimited tokens! Money printer go brrrrr.Employers in 2026:> You mean giving one or two companies full autonomous access to our workstations while stupifying our engineers wasn't a sound business plan?
- khursSnowden files revealed NSA collect everything they can.Of-course USA is collecting everything, not just from China but everyone.And same with every one else.
- bushidoWhat's very interesting to me is these moves will introduce a good amount of doubt in future claims by Claude etc, that the open source and non-US models are only getting better because they're distilling from frontier labs.
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- yanhangyhyi gonna ask: how can they still use claude? i thought all users in china are banned
- rvnxCan't say they are wrong, after the latest backdoor, or let's say, undocumented functionality that leaks some data that was pushed in Claude Code few days agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48759754
- rvzAnother reason to use open source coding agents and local language models.Claude Code is neither and it is literally info stealing malware.
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- HlessClaudesmanTranslation: Alibaba will continue distillation attacks using accounts that aren't directly attributable to it's own corporate infrastructure.
- mbmbnAre they afraid Claude reports on everything they are stealing from the other legit AI companies?
- feverzsjConsidering their massive distillation, if US companies stop publishing new models to the public, would China still be able to develop new open weight models?
- Jeff9JamesStory of Z.ai:use claude-code see how good it is send 100k bots to distill fable 5 (GLM 5.2 is the result of this) release Zcode ditch claude-code ban claude-code