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  Cider9986
  It's absolutely insane that phones have online accounts deeply integrated into the OS. You need to give Apple your phone number to download any apps on iOS.For example:Say anyone that downloaded IceBlock commited crime, Apple could give the govt everyone who downloaded its phone number, the govt could get the realtime location of everyone based on their phone number from the carrier.And that's not even mentioning the other problem that nobody can download IceBlock anymore[1].It's so refreshing for my phone not to ask for any identifying information when I set it up. GrapheneOS is a better software experience than iOS anyway[2].Phones have great potential to be the most private and secure computers, cell services not withdrawing. And iPhones are one of the most private and secure devices. But, Apple uses that to restrict its users freedom and it makes Apple's users can easily be controlled by any government.GrapheneOS delivers that dream.[1] https://www.iceblock.app/[2] once you install good apps. This is coming from a lifelong iOS user. Not prejudiced against Apple, I use a Mac (without an account) and their Advanced Data Protection is great (when I had an account).
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  Namidairo
  On this subject since it's an Australian seller and marketed as "DV safe".Australia has a national test of it's phone alert system in 10 days at 27/07/26, 2PM AEST. (People in North America would know it as Cell Alerts/Presidential Alerts etc.)There have been warnings that hidden phones will almost certainly sound, and their recommendation is to ether power off the phone or put it into airplane mode at least an hour before the test...
• AussieWog93
  This post is literally just SEO copy designed to sell degoogled phones to (justifiably) anxious DV victims?Their phones are more than twice as expensive as equivalent models at JF HiFi too (and 5-10x the price of an older, but still perfectly useful degoogled phone from Marketplace).Why is it on the front page of HN?
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  andai
  Can someone explain this? I've used custom ROMs back in the day (Cyanogen!) but I'm not familiar with GrapheneOS.I remember Cyanogen ships without Google Play etc., right? (Because if you install Google Services and a bunch of crap from their store (theirs and otherwise) that spies on you, it defeats the purpose of a privacy preserving OS.So I'm assuming Graphene is at least as strict as that? (Well Cyanogen at least give you the option of installing all that crap but that would seem to defeat the purpose in this case.)But more broadly I'm not sure I understand the relevance in this particular context. The article mentions that an abuser could put spyware on your phone? Is that a realistic scenario? (Ok I suppose half the stuff on the Play store is spyware so maybe it's more realistic than I'm thinking...)
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  karlkloss
  The site has CAPTCHAs, and I'm too dumb to solve them, because the pictures are so bad that I can't make out anything.How did we get there?
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  aucisson_masque
  Why care about what Google know about you, in case of domestic abuse ?It's not like Google is going to sell your tracking data to abuser.There are many reasons to get rid of Google altogether, I just don't understand this one.
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  monksy
  I use GrapheneOS, I would endorse it for anyone that is technically capable.
• SapporoChris
  I've used GrapheneOS, but not PrivacyPros setup. The site is interesting. It is almost like a to do list of things for my phone. Most of the things they've done feels like a topic to look into and consider implementing.
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  trial_version
  Haven't anybody noticed an iPhone in the illustration, or is it just my mind working that way?
• lazycatjumping
  The Fingerprint with Pin 2FA is a huge game changer.
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  mmooss
  Is GrapheneOS usable by everyone, including the most non-technical phone users, in a secure way?They also recommend at least 12 GB RAM. What about domestic abuse survivors requires that?
• izacus
  This is a submarine Advertisement for a company that will resell you a Google Pixel phone with likt 50% markup and preinstalled GrapheneOS.Let's not normalize this kind of profiteering out of OSS.
• charcircuit
  This is just the company use DV as a manipulation tactic to get you to buy their phones.
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  d--b
  This is a website made by people who sell phones that are 100% tracker-free, and that run on GrpheneOS.I wouldn’t recommend domestic violence victims to install graphene os on their phone by themselves
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  ____mr____
  Very weird post, I dont see how a victim with not enough agency to control what apps are on their phone will somehow be able to install a custom os
• raffael_de
  also recommended for government abuse victims.
• pbgcp2026
  Good luck with "age verification" ...
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  arkhiver
  It's almost like they're trying to sell you one of their phones... not cool
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  wolvesechoes
  God, I hate techno-solutionism.No, domestic abuse victims shouldn't switch to GrapheneOS, install VPN or Tor. They should have support from family, friends, neighbors, and properly functioning institutions backed by proper legislation. Instead of flashing custom ROMs on their phones you should spent your time and energy trying to bring such institutions to life, and if they exists, bring the problem to their attention.Put abusers into jail and keep your iPhone.
• Sn4ppl
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  dmsehuang
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  nunobrito
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  virajk_31
  I won't recommend it to the naive users...