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ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

Jimmc414

Comments (127)

  • Varelion
    This process has been carried out, publicly, a few times. Every time the results not only fail to support the current regime's narrative, they actively goes against it. So, the question becomes: "Who is getting kickbacks for this 'deal'?"More importantly, how in the hell it this under the purview of ICE? Agencies and units have strictly outlined mission statements they are not supposed to go outside of. What kind of secret police nonsense it this?EDIT: Word choice & spelling
  • njovin
    If you're a California resident, under the CCPA you can submit a request for Thomson Reuters to both provide you with and then delete any information they have collected about you.The state's even setup a nice portal to automate these requests across 600+ data brokers.https://privacy.ca.gov/drop/
  • solfox
    I reckon that if you replace "find" with "make", you might be closer to the truth about what this data will be used for.
  • sanex
    Pretty sure you're supposed to get a warrant to access private information. I don't know how we ended up in this place where somehow paying for info precludes the necessity to get a warrant a la flock, cell tower data, etc.
  • flumpcakes
    US politics is cooked. I wonder if polymarket will start taking bets on mid-terms being canceled.
  • garciasn
    https://archive.is/2L3sUMore information:Target Data CollectedAccording to procurement records initially reviewed by 404 Media, the system allows continuous monitoring of the following personal data points: [1]Names and addressesSocial Security numbersEthnicitiesGeolocation informationSocial media activity [1]https://www.change.org/p/demand-thomson-reuters-cancel-its-1...
  • stldev
    This isn't about "finding" fraud.This is about instilling fear, uncertainty and doubt.
  • legitster
    The product we're talking about here is CLEAR.And one of the deep ironies is that CLEAR is already highly deployed at the state level, among other things, to verify voter identity and prevent voter fraud!DHS and ICE also ostensibly already use CLEAR for a variety of other purposes - what's novel here isn't that they are getting access to new data, it's that they want to backseat drive on investigations the states are already conducting, using only a subset of the data the states already use.
  • jimnotgym
    ICE have jurisdiction over elections now?
  • gcanyon
    If they will pay me $10 million I will guarantee to find voter fraud or refund half their money...
  • dofm
    Has this always been ICE responsibility?
  • wnevets
    Its time to abolish ICE.
  • ansuman441
    There are lot of ways to do it, but the biggest challenge is will they do it? like it's mostly a descision rather than capabilities.
  • dweinus
    Why is this flagged?
  • epistasis
    This is shocking and scary amount government over reach, to fabricate evidence of something that everyone knows is false...We are really through the looking glass here, folks. Watch the confirmation hearings where potential appointees are asked to simply state factually who won the 2020 residential election. The amount of dissembling, avoidance, and inability to say that the emperor has no clothes..... it's just shocking.This sort of rank corruption, of turning a government against its own people to subvert democracy... that more people aren't out in the streets about this makes me quite angry. We live in a state of continual shock of how bad things have gotten, I guess
  • JSR_FDED
    It’s Cyber Ninjas all over again
  • baggachipz
    Batshit insane. Does this mean they need to "find" it, like how he wanted to "find" more votes in Georgia?
  • croes
    Is ICE the correct agency for voter fraud?
  • thomascgalvin
    Ah yes, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, that famous election security wing of the US Government
  • vrganj
    How is this immigration enforcement?I see they're no longer bothering to even put up the slightest bit of pretense ICE is anything but Trump's brownshirts, a group of goons to brutalize and intimidate any opposition to his antidemocratic project.
  • jmyeet
    When I was young, I thought mandatory voting was silly. It made uninformed people vote. Well, certainly in this case, I was the uninformed person because seeing how non-mandatory voting works (in the US) should convinced everyone that voting should be mandatory.The history of the US is one of voter suppression. Women couldn't vote. After Emancipation, barriers were put in to stop black people from voting (so-called "grandfather" laws). We got the Voting Rights Act for a reason. Many reasons actually.All the way back in the Reagan era we had the Republican Party engaging in voter disenfranchisement with, for example, the Ballot Security Task Force [1]. This was part of the reason why we needed federal preclearance until John Roberts and his Heritage Foundation henchmen decided that it was impossible to prove racism or disenfrachisement.We continue this by not only removing the voting rights of felons (which should be unconstitutional) but we pass around lists of names of felons and strike off people from electoral rolls for having names that sound similar to that of a felon from a completely different state.There is no widespread voter fraud. There is widespread voter disenfranchisement. All of this is just a pretext for stealing elections. We'll se on January 3rd if the current House Speaker refuses to certify results and swear in new members when the Republicans lose in a landslide. Or we see more shenanigans like in the 2020 election to overturn the presidential election.[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_Security_Task_Force
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  • ck2
    Our country is now a clown showHeritage Foundation, you know those super-left liberals, already did this and found like a hundred votes max over a decade and most of those were pure accidents and not intentional fraud, certainly not able to sway elections even by accidentI previously felt there was a suitable purpose for a small tiny ICE like Obama-sized eraBut now I'm with the abolish folks, it's 100% irredeemable and between them executing people without repercussions and a budget larger than many critical organizations, just delete them completely and start over.
  • pjerem
    But that's not nazi because Trump have no mustache.
  • luxuryballs
    Well there's obviously at least some amount of fraud and a lot of people with eyes on it so finding it seems like the best course of action at the moment, mostly due to the latter since millions of people trusting the elections is pretty important AND if they are verifiably secure it prevents people from running their mouth about it and swaying anyone to distrust them (had to get ahead of it).But really if you compare the US with the first country your mind thinks of when you think if trustworthy elections we have a long way to go and spending money and time looking for the weak spots is the correct start.This is an example of the minimum viable amount of effort that should go into this:"Belgium who was little known that time received more votes than mathematically predicted. So the members of the counting authority took out the magnetic cards and started counting again. After several hours they found that the vote total for every candidate was exactly the same before except for Maria Vindevogel. For Maria Vindevogel, the number of recounted vote was less than the original by 4096 number of votes. How this inflation in votes becomes possible even? What went wrong? Computer experts were brought in to run extensive tests to check the programme. They combed through the code but no bug was detected. Then they tested the hardware again and again."https://scotopia.in/journal/journalbkend/paper_list/v-4-i-1(...