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U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

ceejayoz

Comments (311)

  • astro1234
    As a data scientist it is very frustrating to see a consistent lack of error bars on these numbers or any discussion about the magnitude of uncertainty around them by all news reports every time these numbers get released
  • vannevar
    I would hardly call it a sudden reversal, looking at the downward trend in the numbers over the last six months or so.https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/non-farm-payrolls
  • nunez
    > The BLS said employment contracted the most in “local government education,” which declined by 50,000 roles, likely reflecting teachers during summer break.This is not entirely accurate. AFAIK, teachers usually remain on payroll throughout the summer. This stat _might_ be talking about contractual teaching roles, like adjuncts or subs, but it's hard to say from that BLS category.
  • sp1982
    I have recently started an experiment tracking a sample of 5000 employers in US and I see a bounce last week after a brief lull in july. I am not sure if there is a strong downward trend. https://corvi.careers/reports/usa-weekly-job-openings-report...
  • forlorn_mammoth
    What is also interesting is that the only sector thad added jobs was health care.
  • ethagnawl
    And, as a result, the market is ... up?
  • Waterluvian
    Meanwhile Canada is up 75,000 jobs in July. Can't wait to see the next tantrum America throws our way.https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-jobs-july-2026-9.729...
  • jimmydoe
    govt is resetting the baseline now, so we will see some good numbers in November.it's all about optics for mid term.
  • HarHarVeryFunny
    These jobs lost/gained and unemployment statistics, especially on a monthly basis, and when the numbers are so small, are just noise. Seasonal adjustments alone (baseline assumptions on how many people should be employed) make them meaningless, as does the government definition of being unemployed or looking for work.As far as the government is concerned if you have been looking for a job for so long and/or are so discouraged that you stop looking, then you are no longer "unemployed" since you are not looking for a job.If you are software engineer who has not been able find a software job, and are now flipping burgers to at least have some income, then you have also dropped off the government stats since you now have a job.And then you have the current president's habit of just lying about everything, and threatening anyone who doesn't support his lies, and it seems we have truly entered a post-truth world where "alternate facts" rule the day.When you read headlines of companies laying off thousands of employees, that's real. When the government says they've retroactively adjusted their seasonally adjusted fake news, then not so much.
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  • ploden
    The deficit is 6% of GDP. Economic growth is 2%, if that. If the Democrats win the House and reduce spending, look out below.
  • brazukadev
    wow this thread made me realize the level of manipulation in HN discussions. The amount of bots posting comments passing as real is staggering.
  • blurbleblurble
    All part of the misanthropic plan?
  • cyanmoonx
    Sudden reversal? It’s been the apocalypse for several years with each year getting worse
  • ceejayoz
    Note, also:> In yet another troubling sign for the labor market, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said that it revised down the prior two months by a combined 103,000. May’s jobs total was cut by 66,000 to 129,000 total jobs added, while June’s total was lowered by 37,000 to a total gain of 57,000.
  • 1over137
    Meanwhile Canada added 75,000 new jobs in July. Perhaps Trump's tariff scheme is not working so well after all.https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/9.7299225
  • Varelion
    Who actually believes these numbers?
  • mapping365
    I love how this is immediately used as an excuse to reinflate the AI bubble. Silicon Valley and Wall Street are just begging for backlash.
  • mindcrime
    Guess it's time for Trump to fire another BLS director and find one who's better at cooking the books...
  • Simulacra
    Interesting, this article doesn't seem to mention the layoffs from the tech industry. Which, if you look at the numbers, sort of make up the bulk of it.
  • recsv-heredoc
    "sudden"
  • debo_
    Meanwhile, Canada adds 75k jobs in the same month.> Gains were focused on the private sector, with strength in wholesale and retail trade, finance and insurance, and professional and scientific services. Public sector jobs fell by 14,500 amid an official bid to cut government spending.https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/economy/article-can...
  • stego-tech
    Vertical Thinkers: “Who could’ve seen this coming when all the data looks good?!”Lateral Thinkers: quietly sipping tea, nursing our wounds from layoffs, lamenting another unheard Cassandra moment.Basically sums up the mood, I find. Don’t worry, we’re always steeping a fresh pot for the new club members when stories like these hit the wire.
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  • catigula
    The great reversal is happening. It was about time to quell the bubble-sayers.
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  • bekimbacaj
    firstly :: "economy" cannot lose jobs because it doesn't have any. Secondly :: there is absolutely no way for you to know it.
  • cs02rm0
    Still has a long way to go to catch us up on the other side of the pond.