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- cosmic_cheeseThis is ultimately the endpoint of all Chromium-based browsers. Even the most stalwart will throw in the towel on MV2 support sooner or later, because the effort required to maintain non-trivial patches against mainline becomes too great for the team to keep up with.It's a great demonstration of how Chromium's open source nature is something of a technicality. Unless you have an army of software engineers on par with that of Google, you're eventually going to wind up living with Google's decisions whether you like it or not.
- VCFundedGenYerThis is why we all need to rally around Firefox (or Librewolf, or Waterfox, or whatever fork you prefer) and make sure that sacred goose is never tampered with.
- paxysAll the software freedom people here will do everything except use Firefox.
- MarkWayneNewtonIf this thread is indicative of the sort of browser discourse in <current year> it's no wonder Google won.Nerds used to know how to computer, is what i'm saying.
- bastard_opGoogle is an ad company, ad blockers are bad. Why are you using a browser from an advertising company and expecting different results?Microsoft repurposed Google's adware in Chrome into Edge telemetry/spyware to feed your browsing directly into windows telemetry to watch everything you do, they wanted that back when IE lost the war.Google already went evil and set the precedent removing adblocking capabilities, now Microsoft can just blame them and feed everything you do into Bing for ad money as well as telemetry/spyware without you blocking it, that's effectively double-dipping all in on stupid windows users.
- unlimitI never stopped using Firefox.
- anaisbettsWelp, the biggest reason that I use Edge just got thrown out, time to switch to Firefox.
- genxyThese companies that "own the web" shouldn't be allowed to also own the browsers. We went through this already.
- ktosobcy<surprised pikachu> time for everyone using Chromium-based crap xD
- s0ssAdvertising companies shouldn’t be in the browser business. It’s a really bad conflict of interest. Chromium is a mistake.Firefox is pretty great. But IMO they have some poor ux defaults that make it unappealing to random people who simply want a browser.
- poulpy123I honestly don't know how people do without ad blockers. Even with being ok with ads, they are so overwhelming that I could not use internet without blocking them
- roryirvineuBO 1.7.3 was released just 3 days ago, so it would be more accurate to say "better" rather than "older".
- DarkmSparksVivaldi for the win.
- KronisLVFor what it's worth, I daily drive Edge on my Windows machine and it's an okay browser, haven't had a reason to install Chrome in ages (though did run Firefox for a while due to liking their dev tools better, it's still on my MacBook cause I like the UI more than Safari).Even when my Intel Arc B580 has its drivers freeze the browser, I can just kill the GPU rendering process and it picks back up with no data loss, whereas with Firefox I had to restart the whole thing. Seems related to video decode, changing ANGLE backends or whatever in the browsers didn't really help and disabling hardware acceleration makes the experience suck more than it otherwise should.If not for that, I'd still probably be on Firefox fully, despite Mozilla not exactly being the most sane of companies, though maybe trying to fund developing a browser and a whole org is a bit crazy as it is.Brave was okay but nothing special. Maybe I should look at Vivaldi again, but it's an odd position to be in, when upstream is pushing changes on you, so it probably doesn't matter what they do or don't want to support long term, same as with every other Chromium derived browser.Bummer about Chromium fucking over people who dislike ads.
- DanoxNo surprise they want to serve ads everywhere…
- ck2all the forks in the world won't have widevine supportonly Firefox is left which is fine by me
- raverbashingI guess it still will be the best browser to download Firefox
- NeutralWantedRunning Unbound on my gateway with a curated adblock list. Easy setup, network-wide ad blocking on every device / browser.
- rdx-amwI wonder if this is from efforts to maintain the difference between upstream and Edge - such that Edge is trying to simplify development by following Chrome/Chromium closer.
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- delducaDroped Chromium browsers and been using Safari with Wipr2, so far the best experience
- rambojohnsonwho uses Edge anyway..
- estWhy do browser vendors have such a control over browsers? Can anyone make a dll injection and bring back manifest v2 ?
- sombragrisThe link is paywalled and the site requires me a subscription to keep reading TFA. This happens even after using the link with the Wayback Machine.
- feverzsjBasically every chromium based browser.
- zb3I use MV3 AdGuard and it blocks ads for me. I don't get the fuss about MV2 deprecation.. sure, MV3 is limited compared to firefox, but it's not like MV2 was that much better, no version ever supported rewriting request response.MV3 DNR redirect is notably lame though, instead of replacing the response it generates a real redirect which breaks for example replacing the service worker response. But could MV2 webRequestBlocking replace the response? Well of course not.
- TiredOfLifeIt's ending manifest V2, not just adblockers.uBlock Origin lite is V3 and is still supported
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