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  sarreph
  OP here - longtime HN user. I submitted this story to a writing contest a few months back, but didn’t hear anything from them.I posted it here on a punt and getting front page of HN is 10x the feeling any writing contest could give me!Thanks to all who read and commented, and glad to hear it resonates with some of you![EDIT]: There've been a lot more comments since I wrote this one. I want you all to know that I've read every single comment and am ever so grateful for everyone who responded here / took the time to read the story!
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  JohnMakin
  I think this short story resonates because probably most people know an Aaron - the type that is incessantly looking for some kind of scheme, some kind of get rich quick thing, and will spend exponentially far more effort and misery suffered avoiding real employment than it would take actually just sucking it up and working, and often (usually) with much, much worse results. Yet they persist. A few of them become successful founders, probably, depending on their background. But most don't.
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  tyre
  Fantastic writing, very well done. Every small, incremental decision is believable. You can see how the psychosis evolves.It made me think of Justin.tv, which was Justin Kan streaming himself. There weren’t betting markets, but today there would be.Twitch—what it ended up as–shows how much people crave community. Like other social media, there are many examples in chats of people with believed friendships and parasocial relationships with streamers. For smaller streams, sometimes these are real casual friendships. For larger ones, it’s the dark other side of Aaron.Anyway, I’m glad prediction markets didn’t exist in those days. I wish they didn’t now (we don’t need more outlets for gambling, in my opinion), but this was a great story nonetheless.
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  corndoge
  I like it because each individual piece can happen and we probably all know people by now that have some aspect of Aaron - massive AI use, or into prediction markets, or live streaming, or just a friend who we have learned over time lacks scruples, or have watched them fade in response to life's challenges. The combination of all of these is then easy to imagine and that idea makes a good story.
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  burningChrome
  Best line in the story:I had spent my whole life dreaming of making my own overnight success on the internet, but had taught someone with no ethics how to do it instead.This is such a great line and one I know so many people related to as soon as they read it.You're a great writer, thank you for this today.
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  lazydon
  Not sure why, but I thought this was going to be a friend of Aaron Swartz writing in memory of him.
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  greenfish6
  Powerful. And written so well, I thought it was real at first, I even forgot about the "this is a short story at the top" and googled Aaron's different betting websites
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  samizdis
  I clicked on the HN link and, when I saw "short story", almost closed the tab ... but I started to read anyway. I found it compelling and disturbing from start to finish. Much as my opinions about writing count for nothing, I truly hope that you poat any future works here. A great read.
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  curuinor
  Murder is always systematically kind of a dramatic act. We are definitely going to get a prediction market murder in <5 years, I think.
• ilamont
  This is like a story from "Big Vern" in Viz, but instead of Vern being a violent London heavy, it's basically Ho from Slow Horses.https://assets.londonist.com/uploads/2006/12/i875/4998_big_v...
• doright
  Some people have always had qualities like Aaron's, and giving them tools like AI causes them to reveal themselves by virtue of becoming that much louder. Those problems are often unfixable regardless, as they are at the level of personality. What is fixable in comparison (but likely not in practice) is not inventing new ways of allowing them to hang themselves and others. But we will invent them anyway, because a promising idea cannot be left alone for long, and consequences will be suffered as a result.
• jgilias
  Hooked me with the first couple sentences, and I just had to keep going, as I just wanted to know what happens next.Thanks, a good read!
• rfool
  Nice. Story and your writing style tell more about you as about Aaron.IMHO, with the second paragraph, Aaron starts to fade into background. While you increasingly describe your character in-depth, but also more and more often seem to advert an urge to apologize for ... something. I wonder what that is!?
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  hitekker
  Reads a bit like an elevated resentment fantasy. A mostly ethical narrator narrating his friend’s morally deserved doom that keeps the narrator’s own hands mostly clean. And with the narrator holding a medal at the end.That’s cathartic for some. For me, the narrator rather resembles one of the local tech millionaires, envious of the billionaires. The story doesn’t seem to know the narrator’s dishonesty.
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  lucastamoios
  I use to read a lot, big novels and short stories, and I know when I see something that is good. Yours is.One thing that I give you as feedback, maybe for another version, or for future stories, would be to develop a bit more on why keep the friendship with Aaron. I know it was there some reasons, but for me it was a bit harder to follow. But even this is a small thing.Tell us if you have something else written to share.
• Kim_Bruning
  I might have known an "aaron" or two like that.I've also known an actual "Aaron" who was famous for being extremely ethical and I initially clicked thinking it'd be a reminisce about that one.The story is written really well. Lots of other people have said great stuff about it, so I get some room to criticize a bit too!I just wonder about how you constructed the ending. It seemed like a different ending was coming in, and then the sudden <spoiler> out of nowhere is almost a diablo ex machina. It's just someone who comes out of nowhere, does one thing, and vanishes again, right at the end of the story, just to finish it. It's like "and then he woke up, and realized it was all a dream" ; except not quite as bad as that makes it sound. Intellectually (sherlock holmes reader style) you could see it coming, but somehow story-arc-wise not so much.I was totally on board with the story right up to that point though, so definitely good craft.(edit: was it deliberately a Shaggy Dog Story? If so the fact that there is a trope called "shoot the shaggy dog" is almost too on the nose, so I'm wondering if you had that in mind! https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShaggyDogStory https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShootTheShaggyDo... )
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  mikhmha
  Great story! Loved reading it.I also didn't see the notice it was a short story. So I was a bit puzzled when reading how Aaron built his own exchange as a novice programmer. To me building an exchange is high up on the scale of programming difficulty. Its one of those things you have to do extremely well or else no one will trust your platform.
• iparaskev
  I almost missed my metro stop because I couldn't stop reading.
• royal__
  I legitimately thought this was real for about half of it and it made it very engaging, well done.
• jamesforestwest
  What a great story. You have a very pleasant, flowing style. I didn't even notice it until I reached the end, it really captivated me
• mchaver
  I initially missed the line saying it was a short story and read through most of it as personal experience until the last couple of paragraphs. That made it even more exciting, but it is still very good as a fictional story.
• ceroxylon
  Very good from start to finish, it reminds me of a darker version of the real story told in the 2009 documentary We Live In Public about Josh Harris.
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  john_strinlai
  from your first post, a couple of days ago:>What I'm saying is: that the sum total of blog posts I have actually published (for myself, not for work) is zero.thanks for publishing this story. it kept me hooked throughout. i hope you continue to publish more.
• arjie
  Strangely, doesn't load for me with some Vercel/NextJS error. Disabling Javascript displays the whole post, though.
• StilesCrisis
  Where did Aaron get the millions of dollars' worth of tokens from? The grannies?!?
• jborichevskiy
  Great writing. Felt like it could be a Black Mirror episode
• whiteblossom
  For all the Aarons out there, I think it would be very interesting to hear your POV.
• sailfast
  Black Mirror adaptation when?
• photonios
  Exceptionally well written! I was instantly hooked.
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  whiteblossom
  Thank you for this piece! I'll be thinking about Aaron during lunch today.
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  shimman
  Reminds me of the Black Mirror episode "Shut up and Dance."Great story and creating the character Aaron. You did an excellent job in making a very believable person that I think most of us have run into in tech adjacent spaces.
• mulhoon
  Loved it!
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  variant_length
  This guy aaron doesnt sound very smart to me
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  cynicalsecurity
  Before you read and waste your time:== It's a fake story ==
• nobodywillobsrv
  Good story and the classic problem with nearly all betting markets having viaticals embedded
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  alun
  Very fun read. Thanks for posting it!
• Mr_Eri_Atlov
  Great story; it's amazing how many of us sympathize with or have had an Aaron in our lives.
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  stephenlf
  Spooky and riveting!
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  23david
  Great short story!!
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  moralestapia
  Man this piece should win an Emmy or something, it's so original and well written. I also couldn't spot much AI in there. Props to the author.>rhythmically ejected spurts of bright red bloodYeah man, like in music, synesthesia, I get you.Unsurprisingly the author also makes music: https://rorz.io/musicOne of his songs is called "Do androids dream of real sheep?"What a fresh take on that classic quote! Made me spurt my kombucha, lol.How can someone be SO talented. Thanks for sharing.
• andai
  > I thought Aaron’s credits would run out and that would be the end of it: he would finally get a job.Upon reading these words I experienced psychic damage from the blast of concentrated ambitionlessness.