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Trade (and Tariffs)

Trade (and Tariffs)

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  • ot
  • smallmancontrov
    A current account deficit is a capital account surplus. Persistent deficits shift the balance between Asset vs Export sectors, dumping the export sector and pumping the asset sector. Put differently, we can pay for imports with shit that we make or shit that we own -- and this has implications for people in our country who make shit vs own shit.A better analogy for the trade deficit would be sitting on the couch slamming potato chips and observing the shift in our body away from muscles and towards fatty tissue. Should we be excited to see this example of specialization in action? Is it wrong to want to fix our diet and push our body composition in the opposite direction?https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300261448/trade-wars-are...
  • kemayo
    The context here is that president Trump has an interesting view of trade deficits / surpluses. Specifically, he frequently cites cases where the US has a trade deficit with another country -- where the US is spending more in that country than that country is in the US -- as if that country is "taking money" from the US.This is a bit peculiar, because it ignores the whole "the money we are spending is being exchanged for goods that come back to the US" part of the trade. I.e. I don't have a trade deficit with the grocery store, I just buy my groceries.https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/policy/articles/trump-brag...
  • phony-account
    To make the analogy even more perfect, the character should be holding a saw rather than a hammer.
  • aliasxneo
    Tariffs are bad. Unless you're not the US.
  • AnimalMuppet
    I think a lesson is going to be taught, all right.Unfortunately the feedback loop in nations is much slower than in bodies.
  • 0xy
    People are very quick to make kneejerk reactions to tariffs while assuming the other guys have different opinions.The Biden admin went after Canada repeatedly for unfair trade practices, and issued a blanket 10% tariff on Chinese goods.The only difference is to what degree they wield the tariff hammer, and in which direction it is swung.The one thing the current admin does have a point on is non-tariff meddling. Numerous countries make it almost impossible to sell goods in their countries while the same is not true in reverse, or they levy a high price in garbage regulatory fees (see the EU's new packaging identification directive that completely destroys small business), or in completely made-up fines for vague behaviors not even they can define (see the EU's DSA which is exclusively used against monopolizing American companies while completely ignoring monopolist and predatory EU ones like Booking.com).
  • anon
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  • apexalpha
    This is a pretty reductive take. If a nation works 6 days a week, 12 hours a shift then obviously they will outcompete any nation where people work 5 days a week for 8 hours.Protecting workers from that kind of competition seems fair. Tariffs aren't bad in itself. They are just a tool.Unfortunately fools wielding a tool like this can cause a lot of damage, but that's true for any tool.
  • CGMthrowaway
    I totally agree trade should feel fair. If the US sends jobs, money, food or goods to other countries, then we shouldn't get garbage back.Tariffs are a way of warning other countries "don’t take us for a ride." They help American workers, factories and towns that were hurt when jobs went overseas.Tariffs shouldn't feel like hurting yourself for no reason. They are an important tool for standing up for yourself when other countries (to say nothing of bad trade deals) want to take advantage of you