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  petcat
  I heard a radio spot recently and I wondered if the voice was a real person or AI. It makes we wonder how such industries are dealing with this gen-AI revolution. We spend a lot of time here thinking about how it affects software developers, but I hardly ever see any commentary on how it is affecting screen and voice actors.
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  037
  Prompt engineering tip for Google employees: just add "P.S. Make sure the page works in Firefox too."
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  simonw
  Interesting that OpenAI abandoned Sora entirely but Google are continuing to invest heavily in their own video generation.Maybe because they see video generation as key to developing "world models"?
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  Nihilartikel
  I let myself get mildly excited with the last Omni release, but it turns out it (and this one) can't do the one practical thing I want - Sync generated video to provided pre-existing audio.Meanwhile, I'm happily using Minimax H3 locally on my 12Gb 4070RTX to finally finish the lip syncing to recorded dialog on my abandoned 20 year old Flash animation hobby projects.
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  guilhermeasper
  Google does anything except launch a new version of Gemini Pro.
• cube00
  Draft videos more efficiently in 360pWhile it sounds great you're quickly disappointed after you run the same prompt at standard resolution only to get a different result because it's non deterministic.
• Gecko4072
  So Seedance is good primarily because of TikTok and this because of YouTube. I wonder what portion of all recorded video is privately held in hard drives at people’s homes or Apple photos. Of course there is data labeling and cleaning but is the next evolution just a question of access? Same goes for LLMs. Would people be willing to sell their data? Kind of a messed up way to make yourself obsolete. Or there is a limit to scaling?
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  rcr-anti
  It certainly makes for easy demos, but I always struggle with the practical application. As in, what work or enjoyment does someone actually get from this? Ads and media pre production seem plausible, but it fails the 'how can this enrich life' in a way most other AI tools don't. Maybe for them that's not a consideration, if their only interest is the other meaning of enrich that might flow from ads and numbing rivers of slop.Why do we look at art, watch videos/movies? Is that replicable as a function of text, other existing media, and 3-30 cents of compute per second? I'm pretty functionalist about these things, and at some point it probably won't be possible to tell the difference. But until then, at which point we might just say 'death of the author', it seems like a category error.I do work with artists that use video and image generation models to create stuff, but from what I can tell they're interested in faster iteration and controlling a lot of intermediate steps (their graphs can get pretty labyrinthine).
• shreya1999
  Raw generation quality is becoming table stakes; controllability might be the more important battleground.
• chermi
  Google we ain't falling for it. #neverforget3.5prowithinamonth
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  polytely
  I'm still getting major uncanny valley from any of the videos featuring humans, something about them disgusts me. I guess I should be glad I'm still able to distinguish them.
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  overflowy
  If you're using any of these generated videos in any professional setting, I don't think I will be able to ever use your business.
• SpyCoder77
  So we are just making up numbers now, huh
• tiahura
  wish some of these frontier models supported 3d.
• sashank_1509
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  CmonGoogle
  The AI brand fragmentation at Google is not yet a problem because everyone is pretending:x There are so-called “SOTA” or “frontier” models that are more effective than the other ones (independent of harnessing and routing)x OpenAI and Anthropic have all the SOTA models and lead all the innovationx Google’s moat is its search bread/butter (it’s the only reason they’re relevant)All 3 operating assumptions are - I think - false.What Google has done that the “cuter products” (Claude, ChatGPT) haven’t is connected relatively standard LLMs to an externally valuable live service.As more companies realize that is where all the value is (the service) and not in the AI capability, then products (and humans) become important again.Google should just be Google again, and Gemini should be Gemini, off to the side. Omni confuses everyone (and angers some iykyk), they should resolve “AI mode”, rename Gemma? and consolidate the brand overall so it’s clear what Google is.Google is search.It helps people on all sides of the market find what they’re looking for.I don’t really see how repeatedly reinventing and rebranding the same AI chat UX is accomplishing anything toward that goal.