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- chuckadamsNew policy boils down to "AI or not, it's still your code and you're responsible for it". I can get on board with that.
- GZGavinZhaoRelated: I find this self-assessed AI level for contributions [1] to be extremely useful, both professionally and personally, to communicate the level of AI assistance so that the person on the receiving end can evaluate how much time & effort they want to spend understanding my code.[1]: https://www.visidata.org/blog/2026/ai/#self-assessed-ai-leve...
- jhackGood to see the most common sense option winning. Some of the other proposals were so disconnected from reality I'm surprised they were even considered.
- gentlerainPeople have to realise that AI is here to stay.Being a full time AI hater is counterproductive.Commercial vendors with full time employees are leveraging for maximum benefits, why would a project depending on volunteers resist? Not forgetting it's shortcomings
- edwardJoey Hess is unimpressed. See https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/Debian_and_the_sirens/
- swingandamissGood. AI is a game changer. It's like having an expert sitting next to you at all times. It's understandable why all these experts who want to gatekeep don't like AI, but ultimately, AI will win out, it's just too good.
- sheepscreekBetter heads prevail - this is a good start and the right decision. The agent/bot is controlled by some entity, ergo that entity is responsible for everything it does.I relate that to how a Physician's Assistant gets their authority to treat patients from the Doctor they work under. The Doctor's credentials are on the line if their PA screws up.
- new12How rigorous is your code review process when using agentic tools? Do you mandate that folks responsible for the functionality should be fully aware of the code they are shipping or just that it must be rigorously tested?Is there an open source, community maintained coding policy to feed to agents?
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- argelio4321Batery is sevel 100
- poisonborzWhat other sensible option was there? This would be the reality either way.
- themgtAugust 29th, 2026. Debian votes to allow responsible use of generative AI. Human decisions are removed from strategic apt packaging. Debian Sid is ported to GNU Hurd by a "free as in speech" swarm. It begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
- song_synthWhelp time to deactivate unattended-upgrades
- DarmokTanagraDebian Rust rewrite incoming.
- NietTimThis seems like a very sane take. At no point during my career up until now would submitting code to production that you didn't understand be acceptable. Over the past months/year, a lot of the discourse around AI-written code I've read comes down to responsibility, and IMO for that we've had a solution since way before this AI boom: as a developer, you are responsible for the code you put into production. This really isn't/shouldn't a wild concept.
- chrisjj> The Debian Project nevertheless expects that all contributions submitted to Debian, regardless of how and with which tools they were produced, satisfy the same standards of quality, correctness, maintainability, and legal compliance.How absurdly naive.
- baggy_troughI followed the discussion on debian-vote with interest. I'm glad that the hysterical objections lost, as they seemed quasi-religiously motivated.
- sprybearprogress of a kind
- matheusmoreira> The Debian Project nevertheless expects that all contributions submitted to Debian, regardless of how and with which tools they were produced, satisfy the same standards of quality, correctness, maintainability, and legal compliance.A quality based filter. Excellent.> The use of a generative AI tool does not diminish the contributor's responsibility for the work they submit.Absolutely.Thanks, Debian!
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- onesandofgrainWhat does "Responsible" even mean...This will turn to shit because laziness will take over and comprehension will fall as a consequence of that. Junior will "contribute" and the seniors will eventually become too lazy to care. What's next... vibecoding airline ADA code. Save me lord jesus christ.
- rvzNow you have seen both cases where a majority vote was involved to allow AI or not, vs a single core beloved dictator for life (BDFL) forces a ban without a vote to allow / disallow AI.This is democracy in action. A fair and square vote and look at how well it works with no core BDFL to force in their opinions.
- BlueRoguesDevelI hope it works out better than Microsoft and using it on Windows 11...
- GrimetonTypical Debian. The meaning of the term "responsible" is not defined and so they can continue doing whatever they were doing anyway.But there was some electoral spectacle.What else is new?
- sphOn a similar note, is there any distro that explicitly has banned usage of generative AI for their project? Asking for a friend.
- guenthertIf they can't be bothered to write the code, can they be bothered to maintain it?
- throwawayffffasAnd so it begins.I don't believe they had a choice though, sticking to hand written code would be backwards and eventually meaningless as people would just submit generated code as "handwritten", the coding models are quickly becoming capable enough for this.I wonder what it means copyright wise though. To what degree is the code even copyrightable if it's entirely generated, even if you review and provide feedback.