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ravynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

ravynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source

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Comments (59)

  • mrweasel
    Maybe someone more familiar with operating systems kernels can answer this: Is Darwin really all the exiting? It is different from both the BSD kernels and Linux, but less so than Windows. Other than the ability to run macOS applications (assuming you can clone the libraries and APIs from macOS) is there some benefit of Darwin that I'm not seeing?
  • dang
    Related. Others?New OS aims to provide (some) compatibility with macOS - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45997212 - Nov 2025 (165 comments)RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38485596 - Dec 2023 (176 comments)RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32492514 - Aug 2022 (366 comments)
  • mcdow
    from the faq: > Is this... legally sketchy? No. Consider projects like ReactOS, a from-scratch effort to create an OS compatible with Microsoft Windows, GNUstep, which provides an open implementation of Cocoa APIs and other things, or Darling, a compatibility layer for running Darwin (macOS) binaries on Linux. ravynOS is similar and stands on the shoulders of many such projects.as far as i understand it, most companies don’t bother sending cease and desists to projects you’ve never heard of. the fact that the aforementioned projects have avoided the banhammer of Apple should not be an indication that a successful MacOS clone would receive the same treatment.but on the other hand, maybe that’s a champagne problem. if you can make a macos clone good enough to get the attention of Apple, you’ve already done something incredible.
  • pmkary
    I think any desktop operating systems has to present itself with at least a single screenshot. Why not one in the entire page?
  • jamesforestwest
    You're using open-source Apple code (Darwin) and aiming for Cocoa API compatibility. How are you handling the legal side? Apple's APIs and frameworks are proprietary. Are you reimplementing them from scratch, or using something like GNUstep?
  • travisgriggs
    Everyone gets to name their projects for their own reasons. If the pitch is basically an “alternate apple” macOS, I would have chosen one of the other other (alternate) apple varieties as the root of my OS. Missed opportunity I guess.
  • tcdent
    > Developers can port existing Cocoa applications with minimal changes.I wonder how big the actual gap between close to Cocoa App compatibility and full app compatibility is? Being able to run MacOS apps natively would unlock a huge barrier to adoption here.
  • ivanjermakov
    Imagine the world where open-source is collaborating instead of fragmenting. Single Linux distribution, single compartibility layer for other OSes, single graphics API, single package manager...
  • soupbowl
    Good luck! There are many attempts at doing something similar. We can't really see anything to judge it by, yet.
  • mixdup
    >but we're not a fan of the ever-closing hardware and ecosystemWhat has changed about Apple's ecosystem vis a vis openness, hardware, or the 'ecosystem'?The macOS ecosystem is pretty much the same as it has been since 1997
  • j45
    It will be interesting to see how much further (or not) some open source projects like this can get using meaningful AI driven development.
  • masijo
    Would be nice to have a screenshot in the overview page
  • CodeCompost
    Another one? What happened to the other one that was called ... (quick Google) ... Hello System?
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  • gnuplustoejam
    What, exactly, is the point of this?The Mac GUI is closed source. You're not cloning it without being sued by Apple's turbo lawyers or at the very least receive a C&D. This is for console applications?macOS will now be ARM-only. If you buy Apple hardware you already have a license for the real thing.Why run a TBD meme OS when you could run Darwin, FreeBSD, Linux, etc. or real macOS to accomplish whatever unclear goals are presented here?*sigh* This is for no one, there is no viable use case. The ReactOS team will be sending a fruit basket.