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  teekert
  Context: After careful research our organization preferred a European partner with good central privacy controls. We landed on Mistral, after being disappointed that the Pro tier was opt-in to training on prompts by default we switched up to the Team tier which provides an organization dashboard with some relevant settings. As we did that Mistral changed these options and the Team tier was now also opt-in by default and at the same time seemed to have lost the ability to centrally disable training on prompts for your entire organization. This even caused some of our (testing) prompts to be used for training (which Mistral removed after we expressed our disappointment).For some time these pages conflicted with what our users reported (they said that in contrast to what I stated to our management they found they were opted into training on prompts by default as per their own privacy page). Mistral just now corrected their docs. I'm not sure how long the conflicting situation has lasted, but at least for several days.For contrast: Claude disables training on prompts for organizations starting from the 18 euro tier [0]. As a European I'm disappointed.[0] https://claude.com/pricing#team-&-enterprise
• htrp
  LeChat when it was launched as a consumer product was always going to be a data acquisition play.This is them just making it very clear and disclosing as per European rules.
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  saaaaaam
  This is a hugely misleading editorialised title.The page title is "Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training".Right at the top of the page it says "In certain cases, your input and output data (such as conversations, documents, and other user-provided content) may be included in Mistral’s model training programs. You retain full control over this processing and have the right to opt out of these programs at any time."
• matthieu_bl
  Summary of the different scenariosService: Vibe Plan: Non-Enterprise Default: Opted in Opt-out possible? YesService: Vibe Plan: Enterprise Default: Opted out Opt-out possible? Yes (admin-managed)Service: Mistral Studio/API Plan: Not specified Default: Not stated, I assume opted in Opt-out possible? Yes
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  maz1b
  I could be mistaken, but wasn't Mistral openly championing themselves as a company and EU option that wouldn't do this/didn't do this?
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  Diti
  This gets posted literally moments before I was about to pay them after ditching Claude. Thank you! I hate data collection in paid products.I think I will be using Kagi Ultimate for the inference UI, so the data is somewhat anonymized before being collected.
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  maxdo
  It’s a spyware, but a sovereign one
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  segmondy
  There are so models that beats all of Mistral models, plus you can run many of them locally. Why would anyone run Mistral?
• vb-8448
  My bet is that mistral models will suddenly start to shine.
• f6v
  Same company that has a partnership with Saudis, btw.
• perks_12
  I assume they do this no before releasing new models. It feels like they expect higher user influx from their new models.
• romanovcode
  I'm sure that the 3 users they have are very pissed about this news.
• danelski
  Most commenters here clutching their pearls as if Claude and Gemini Pro didn't do it already. In the latter you (as a paying customer) can't even store the chat history unless you agree to their 'improvement of services'. Do you have all your accounts paid for by the enterprise or you never check the settings?
• ylisav
  Very disappointing, but who doesn't train on user data? It's the only moat they have
• DerDerDaIst
  Oh come on. So you should be fine with this because "hey we're the friendly europeans..."?
• krunck
  Very disappointing. I really get the sense that all AI companies and anti-privacy parasites on society.
• ex1fm3ta
  I mean they all do it right ? Mistral is just the first one to publicly say it.
• chris_explicare
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  floki165
  Taking away the ability to centrally enforce an opt-out across an organization is a massive red flag.You can't reasonably expect every individual employee on a Team plan to remember to dig into their personal settings and flip a privacy toggle. For any company dealing with sensitive IP or GDPR-compliant data, this basically makes the Team tier unusable.
• r_lee
  European innovation right hereyou can't make this shit up