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- naveen99You don’t need black holes for a bang. Super novae exist.
- gmusleraWhere is the replicator? Evolution doesn’t happen just because. Copies are made, not all identical, some get to the next iteration, and if what makes them different gives them better chances to get to the next stage, then that difference may remain.Where that plays with universes?I get that if they are infinite amounts of universes, the ones with conditions of evolving intelligence hace more chances to be observed from within, but more or less that’s it.
- dangLast year's thread (mentioned in OP's text above):The Blowtorch Theory: A new model for structure formation in the universe - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44115973 - May 2025 (170 comments)
- MelatonicI think it makes sense. Life as we know may not have a defined "edge" between alive and not alive. Simply a spectrum.All life as we know does seem to reproduce but maybe a better definition is that it increases something similar to chaos or entropy.
- slibhb> Some futurist philosophers had extended the idea to explain the emergence of complex life from hot gas and stars. Humans exploit increasingly powerful energy sources, a progression they argued could culminate in artificial black holes. If those black holes spawned new universes, then a cosmos capable of producing technologically advanced life might produce more offspring. The progression from hot gas to stars, life and technology could, they proposed, be a product of cosmic natural selection.So the meaning of life is to make as many black holes as possible?
- chistevI think it was in the book Pale Blue Dot by Carl Sagan where I read that why the planets orbit in circular motion is because they are the planets that survived what must have been a chaotic early universe.In the early universe, those planetary bodies must have been moving in different ways and colliding into one another, and the rate of collisions must have been very high.Ultimately, the constant collisions led to eventual clearing off of bodies that did not move in circular motion, and that's what we see today. A natural selection of objects of the cosmos.I might be misremembering Carl Sagan's description. But I'm almost certain I read this in Pale Blue Dot. I keep meaning to re-read that book.
- andrewflnrI think it's worth noting that the universe-selection theory outlined in this article is a lot more conservative than the full Blowtorch Theory about cosmic structure formation.
- kwamenum86Evolution is the only universal principle. Governs everything that happens in our reality and all realities. Gets really trippy when you consider the ways in which evolution itself evolves - that largely explains the biodiversity we see on earthCheck out The Case Against Reality for more color
- bolangiI can't find the reference, but there are many integer or near-integer relationships among the planets of our solar system. Such a preponderance that it seems improbable.
- cmrx64I was deeply influenced by encountering your work at the time I did, thank you and keep it up :) great to see you on HN
- qseraI am a total layman. But I believe that MUH (Max Tegmark) is the real thing.I was once looking at fractal animations on youtube. At one point, I thought I saw things move in it in a way that resembles physical movement. That caused me to ask if there could be a fractal where things moved or behaved in accordance with the physical laws of our universe (As I pursued this idea, I came across MUH from Tegmark [1]). And if such a fractal (or a mathematical structure) exhaustively implements all our physical laws, it follows that we will observe eventual emergence of consciousness life.Of course, random events should also occur to support emergence of life. The randomness that one observe in such a world would also be a deterministic property of the structure it inhabits. So slightly different structures could only differ in a single random event. Thus it follows that there are variant structures where any random events (apart from the deterministic physical laws) manifest.Thus it follows that if live in our universe is the result of the physical laws of this universe, and some set of random events, there will be a mathematical structure as I described above, where this manifests.I like or believe this idea because it, in one fell swoop, answers all the difficult and seemingly unanswerable questions like Who created the universe, or Why do we exist or What is the purpose of existence or What was there before the universe etc etc...[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/0704.0646
- JumpCrisscrossIf black holes contain universes (idk, maybe dimensionally reduced ones), this strikes me as more likely than bullshit. Not likely. But real enough to be worth toying with.
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