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  unfocso
  Really sad, and also a testament of the fact that as much as we think we try to be indipendent, eventually once somebody starts putting enough pressure on the people around you (and you turn from "a neutral customer" to "a liability") the path to isolation is very short.
• andlarry
  Here is the State Department's rationale: https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...
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  hermannj314
  I am first hearing about this group today, but here is some context:https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...Apparently they provide the digital infrastructure for violent Antifa cells and because of a 9/11 related executive order, the A/I is able to be branded a sponsor of terrorism.I guess this makes it a crime to give them money or provide aid to them (if you are a US citizen).
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  InsideOutSanta
  I hereby designate the US government an international terrorist organization.
• Normal_gaussian
  I wasn't aware of this group; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autistici/Inventati is their wiki article, but it is a little light on details.Some of the claims are interesting - "Decision making in the group takes places collectively instead of through majority voting." - isn't explained by the sourced article.
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  matt123456789
  What did they do??
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  rdtsc
  Can just rename themselves into I/A. “A/I? That’s shut down. We are not affiliated with them…”
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  GaryBluto
  >The day we discovered we had been designated a global terrorist organization, we promised that we would try to resist as long as this was possibleEleven days?-As a sidenote, I'm rather confused why most sources referred to A/I as simply offering services for "left wing activists"; while this is true, they also offered services to actual, inarguable terrorists. Their services were used to announce firebombs on anti-abortion pregnancy crisis centers.Now, I don't think they should have been labelled an outright terrorist organisation by many means, but I am astonished by the level of whitewashing.
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  nikunj1809
  What does it means?
• phoronixrly
  Thank you American people! This couldn't have happened without you!
• AndrewKemendo
  Love these people and what a powerful messageIf anyone from A/I is reading this know you always have a place to stay/eat if you need it
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  righthand
  > We are stopping, but the Resistance and ideas do not stop. Stay human.How will that be if the resistance is not visible to the public. What are all the people using their services supposed to do? I’m guessing there are plans to reform in a few years. Why is the Italian government not protecting them?
• sph
  Fuck you Trump and fuck you US (and the government of a small country in the Mediterranean who's behind all this). Thank you Autistici/Inventati with whom I had my first email account in the dialup era.I can't wait to see the American hegemony slowly crumble over the next few decades.
• monkaiju
  Hopefully riseup can pick up some of the slack here, but more decentralized services are needed.
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  jtrn
  I also oppose fascism, militarism, racism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia, like what A/I do... And none of that is illegal... At least not in any civilised society. So what did they do to trigger so many? I remember the Norwegian stuff (since I’m Norwegian), and I remember thinking it sounded like bullshit to copy their entire server drive when they wanted access to the blog of two people.From what I could gather, it seems various governments accused them of deliberately providing infrastructure to groups whose violent activities they supported, such as the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), with communications associated with railway sabotage, attacks on energy infrastructure and the “Jane’s Revenge” arson campaign (whatever the hell that is).Here’s a snippet I found on the net: "Italian police installed a server backdoor in 2004 during an investigation into the anarchist collective Crocenera. It was discovered in 2005. According to contemporary EDRi reporting, the access potentially exposed communications belonging to thousands of unrelated users; EDRi explicitly noted that actual collection of unrelated data had not been proven. EDRi’s contemporary report"Huge disclaimer on this, since it’s just my musings: This might be one of the situations where both sides are in the wrong. It’s possible that A/I willfully turned a blind eye to actual illegal activity by its users, and refused to cooperate with legal investigations. At the same time, various governments, including mine, overreacted and behaved unethically and maybe even illegally because A/I “didn’t want to play ball.”Just speculation. But the fact that I can’t easily find concrete examples of what A/I supposedly did wrong makes me inclined to feel sympathy for them. I hate unspecific allegations like “facilitation of problematic and terroristic-adjacent activities.” That’s some 1984-ish bullshit.I have no clue what I’m talking about here, though. Strange situation and too little information...
• vallerie
  Yet another example of the troubling amount of power the United States holds over the internet and global finance.I really worry about the future of free and open expression over the next few years.
• behole
  Deeply troubling and part of a larger initiative. Fascism is blooming under these weird-o monsters.Dollars to doughnuts there will be HN's finest boot-lickers in the comments running cover for orange and company. Disgusting and traitorous.
• darig
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  elmer2
  I've been following the collextive for 10 years. They promoted and hosted violent/terrorist activity.Parler was ripped off the Internet for 1% of this.You reap what you sow. If you don't support the freedom of people you disagree with politically, I don't support your freedom either.Covid has forced me to take a hard stance on this.