<- Back
Comments (122)
- davedxMistral is an interesting AI company because they clearly have a contrarian business strategy to the other AI labs. They're also landing big customers in Europe for the right reasons. People dump on them because they're not benchmaxxxing which is pretty shortsighted - do you really want to be in a benchmark arms race with China, or do you want to make money and deploy sovereign AI compute in Europe?
- tangledEurope absolutely needs a home-grown AI lab, especially with Pax Americana looking increasingly shaky.LLMs embody value systems, and American and European values are not the same (yes, there are overlaps, but also key differences).More nefariously, I can also imagine LLMs that silently degrade their reasoning when used in a national security context of a non-US country.So, Mistral may not be competitive with OpenAI and Anthropic, but in many contexts that doesn’t matter. And, perhaps this gap could be closed with more funding (the three billion funding figure is a rounding error next to US labs). I’m sort of surprised that the EU isn’t stepping in to support them.
- donmbMistral is not that bad as the comments here suggest. I am not using it as a frontier model but with simple RAG tasks and its doing great. Also OCR is pretty decent. It's a positive development that Europe is at least trying. Alternative would be: do nothing.
- ph4rsikalMistral's annual revenue (700M) is what Anthropic generates in 3 days. It will be extremely difficult to build new models with these numbers.
- v3ss0nNo amount of $ would improve mistral if they cant fix fundamental flaws. They aren't even on par with chinese models a year ago.
- sznio> Existing investors a16zI don't trust anything the antichrist invests in
- tasoeurLast I saw job offers for mistral (engineering, Paris) it advertised 90k euros base salary. Not sure how they’re intending to compete with the US when even a top AI lab can’t afford to be competitive :-/
- keel-controlI get worried when thinking about Mistral because they make mediocre models and I don't think they will be able to defeat their competition.
- AidenVennisI really do hope they can catch up with the American models, but I think setting the Chinese models as the goal would be best. They seems to be able to create great models with low cost that are probably useful for 90% of the day to day tasks. Mistral should not focus on competing with Claude Fable or OpenAI's Astra at first but have a good EU alternative to Opus or even Sonnet. The fact that it's European will be enough to be used by a lot of companies and governments in the EU that are (trying to) move away from US tech.
- steinvakt2That’s great, but meanwhile American competitors are worth… trillions?
- 0x20cowboyTrès bien! C’est parti!
- cl-coderSo I suppose mistral-large-4 then in a few months?
- nalekberov"Mistral raises €3B to make sovereign, open-weight AI the technology frontier". Oh yeah, that sounds reasonable, indeed, one receives this much money just for sovereignty's sake.
- shevy-javaThey are all responsible for driving up RAM prices.I want my money back.
- lain98I've been applying to jobs at Mistral, just straight rejects.Not even a phone call :(
- MorkeethEuropes last chance
- CerebralCodingToo bad Mistral fucking sucks