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  • abixb
    I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious?I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work' app, and she responded with, "just ChatGPT, what is Sol?."I then realized that most people just stick with whatever default they're provided with, and it's a lot of them. So, us serial HN users and commenters are the extreme minority, and I'm sure millions of people will gobble up this Muse agent from Meta as if it's some sort of an innovative cutting-edge way to use the internet by Meta alone.Curse of knowledge and all. [0][0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_knowledge
  • simonw
    Meta AI's David Singleton has a thread about their security prompt injection defenses here: https://twitter.com/dps/status/2097404102468899131> One threat we’re particularly focused on is prompt injection, and we handle it in layers. The model is trained to recognize and resist it. The harness marks anything coming from an untrusted source. Deterministic code checks the result. And an ensemble of classifiers runs where the agent can't reach them.That "deterministic code" bit makes me wonder if they've implemented ideas from the DeepMind CaMeL paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.18813 - my notes on that paper here: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Apr/11/camel/
  • halamadrid
    If there is one company that I'd never ever use for running a personal agent, that would be Meta. But they have the advantage of a large user base who still uses the platform heavily and a working personal agent is a huge pull for most of their users.
  • mixedCase
    Yeah nah thanks I'm building my own. An agent that knows every bit of my life? Dream come true for data harvesting. It's bad enough what it can infer and sell from the public statements I make in social media and imperceptible metrics I could not fathom.
  • aschla
    The "Ideas" section looks primed to eventually list Sponsored "ideas".
  • mlmonkey
    Hand over every piece of personal information to Zuck .... um... no thanks, dawg, I'll pass.
  • cebert
    I have a hard time seeing how Meta is betting people will trust them to serve as their AI agent provider. Based on their track record data privacy and tracking, why would I trust them with my most sensitive data? That’s a hard sell.
  • sroerick
    Facebook is the first to market with a polished openclaw? Good for them.I'm sure many others will criticize other aspects of Meta, and rightly so. But imagine using a Claw agent with zero tech support available
  • declan_roberts
    "With its own browser"I can't even begin to comprehend what kind of personal and PII data this thing will be scraping from its users. Caveat emptor!
  • bentt
    I'd rather throw my computer in the dumpster than let Meta install something like this on it.
  • h14h
    I'm excited for this style of agent to become more commoditized. I got access to Instinct recently and quickly found some pretty compelling use-cases for it. Namely, preparing my contracting invoices & drafting outgoing emails for me.The onboarding experience of answering a WhatsApp message asking simply "what have you been putting off?" was pretty slick. Now I just want to see a version I can run on my own hardware so I don't have to worry about some sketchy company hoarding my data.I know OpenClaw and Hermes are supposedly answers to this, but I find that they've each become so bloated with features that they're far more difficult to use and bug prone than I'm happy with. I'd prefer something more opinionated that limits the surface area for bugs as well as the number of decisions I need to make as an operator.
  • nzoschke
    Why would you share data with Meta like this?The Agent Computer is super powerful, but by definition its easier than ever to build one yourself, and a the result is a personal and private computer.I know most "normal" people wont want to build their own this but there are still a lot of options that don't involve giving Meta or Grok all your data.I put some notes on all this here: https://housecat.com/blog/agent-computer-101
  • xnx
    Ironically, one of the things I most want from an agent like Muse is to read Facebook and Instagram for me and present posts in a user-friendly and ad-free format.
  • modeless
    Does anyone else remember "Facebook M"?In 2015 Facebook (not yet renamed to Meta) launched a personal assistant named simply "M" that lived in Messenger and functioned remarkably like ChatGPT does today. At the time it was basically entirely humans on the backend, with the idea that they could replace humans incrementally as they collected data. Really ahead of its time. They shut it down in 2018, which seems shortsighted in hindsight. That data would have been invaluable just a few years later.https://www.technologyreview.com/2017/04/14/152563/facebooks...
  • simonw
    > When shopping, a one-time card number is generated at checkout so your real card is never seen by the merchant or your agent.That's sensible. Hopefully you can set a spending limit too? I'd be OK giving my agent a $100 limit.
  • sho_hn
    Interesting how the first beat of the curiously-low-bitrate, kinda-ugly video presentation was admitting that the agent's highest priority is to get me to buy more stuff through its store front.It's certainly honest.Is this marketing to end-users or to stakeholders?
  • AM1010101
    This is a pretty good move for Meta to go all in on. AI is ChatGPT and Gemini to normies, Meta is not considered. However when I ask one of my less technical friends if they connected any tools (email, calendar, docs, etc) they are clueless that this is even possible. To them AI answers questions and generates images. If Meta can get this to the masses as the first AI thats useful at doing agentic things, ie an assistant rather than a chatbot, then the average user will see meta as as the company who provides this to them. It’s their best chance at winning the category and having a strong play in AI. If I were Chat or Gemini I’d get something to market fast. Timing wise are they also hoping to beat / be compared to any siri announcements this week in the media too?
  • parapsychic
    Judging from the website, Muse seems to be too keen on making me buy things - Book Tickets, Buy a Stroller. Would this personal AI spam me with ads randomly like this?
  • GolfPopper
    Eclipse Phase cargo culting, in hopes the Titans show up?
  • bel8
    I think they had this sitting idle for a while, waiting for their AI division to deliver a capable LLM to power it.Now they have Muse Spark 1.3, which is somewhere between Sonnet and Flable (Opus tier in my experience) in intelligence, but is very fast at 200+ tok/s.I have been using Muse Spark 1.3 contrib (the one that shares your data for training but is much cheaper) via OpenCode Go $10/mo plan for coding and the thing flies, it's a pleasure to use. I think the only faster acessible model currently is Gemini 3.8 Flash which is around 250-280 tok/s.
  • dools
    I love how the marketing departments of these things always imagine people are just constantly plagued by the hassle of organising their flights, restaurant bookings and movie tickets
  • wiradikusuma
    From the demo, it seems towards "buy buy buy", but I'm cheap, I always compare prices, even for repeat items (who knows, another seller might happen to be cheaper now?).Maybe I'm in the minority?
  • chvid
    Probably useful for influencers, people managing social media, content marketing etc.The schedule your tennis lessons and do your travel package list scenarios are of course rubbish.
  • mholt
    Cool, I've been working on this exact thing for me and my family for a while now and Meta just ... went and did it.I guess I'll focus mine more on the things Meta doesn't care about, like privacy and control.
  • ngd
    Every example from the tweet influencers I saw was about spending money. The exception I got excited about for a second was about saving money but alas it was just about spending less money
  • arionhardison
    The features don't really matter here IMO; where does the PA function live? Whoever runs it sees intent streams. If that goes to a startup then the planning, coordination etc.. is ad free. I don't think Meta wants to live in that world.Travel is such a huge play here because its inherently social; so "^n viral loop where N is travelers; odds are most will have some meta app so possibly lower friction here too. Not to mention the adjacent travel econ: e.g.: eat, sleep etc..Amplified an order of magnitude for the e-mail piece given how badly Meta would like to have google's g-mail data.Either way, interesting play IMO.Note: Moved from dupe thread.
  • dzink
    The goal is always the same - be the one and only place where people go to buy things online. Especially their highest margin purchases.
  • thm
    Hard to trust a guy with your life after he already came for your legs.
  • messh
    "A n̈ew kind of AI"... yeah... join the pile :)
  • throwyawayyyy
    I can't say it doesn't make sense. Who still loves Facebook? Older people. Who loves chatbots? Old people too. Not _just_ old people of course, but this genuinely might be the first new tech I've seen which has been so easily and quickly welcomed by those a generation or two older than me.
  • misrasaurabh1
    I really don't want to share all my personal life information with meta like this.
  • dmix
    > Muse Secure VM runs on a persistent, dedicated virtual machine equipped with a state-of-the-art browser to navigate the web.Will this finally be the era of thin-clients? Third times the charm
  • muppetman
    "Your personal data is safe and secure" Ahahahahahah no thanks.
  • aniceperson
    considering the current state of the internet and meta having no control over a solid marketplace (like amazon), it is very hard to see the shopping feature to take off. even if some legit business register/allow the bot to buy stuff, it will be ridiculously overwhelm by scam sites.
  • jazzpush2
    Zuckerberg: "Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard. Just ask. I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SMS"Friend: "What? How'd you manage that one?"Zuckerberg: "People just submitted it. They trust me. Dumb fucks"
  • gnivol
    You personal AD data transfer system. We don't pretend to spy anymore, just give it to us.
  • llIIllIIllIIl
    So this is like installing codex and then using remote on chatgpt app? Niche AF. But you rent the computah from meta?
  • m00dy
    $META is going in the right direction and it's so underrated.
  • kadomony
    The last company that I'd want to entrust my life with.
  • random3
    It's not "personal" if it runs on someone else's machine
  • dbgrman
    lol no thanks. Even with a proven "superintelligence" A.I, I'm not giving Meta access to anything. And that says something coming from an ex-Meta engineer (Ig/whatsapp/fb).
  • vinni2
    I don’t understand why Apple can’t pull something off like this.
  • AgharaShyam
    I guess now we know who bought the name from museapphttps://allume.com/memos/2026-07-allume-v4/Seems like they changed names internally from "Hatch" (some UI still uses hatch instead of muse)
  • Centigonal
    Exciting to finally see glimmers of Meta's vision for its massive LLM investment.It's not a bad product idea, but adoption might be rough because of all the negative goodwill that Meta has accumulated over the years. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if someone (maybe one of the big AI labs) ran Meta's own playbook against them here by creating an imitator and aggressively funding adoption to try and win the market as a fast follower.
  • konfusinomicon
    just wait til its got all the sweet sweet meta glasses data that is about to come pouring in.
  • Skidaddle
    pass
  • hodder
    muse is probably an awesome technological innovation and will still completely flop bc it’s a consumer product outside of social from Meta. It’s a solution in search of a problem. I get why the company wants this. I don’t get why any consumer does.
  • hokkos
    Seems like a Openclaw or Hermes for the masses, but you really have to trust meta for that.
  • darrinm
    How does Muse stack up against Grok Bot capability/feature-wise?
  • RGS1811
    I have a hard time understanding, given the abundance of bad faith and predatory behavior Meta has displayed over entire span of its existence, why anyone would want to consult with its "personal AI" or grant it access to "all aspects of your life".
  • avaer
    > A personal AI agent can help with everyday tasks like booking reservations, monitoring prices, managing reminders, creating documents, generating images, and researching topics.Always the same thing. I wish product designers would have some modicum of imagination for how agents can actually help people.Literally none of these examples are improved by this kind of personal AI agent; on the contrary, it means letting your agency be dictated by companies that do not have your interests in mind.
  • djierardi
    Trust. That's critical. Has Meta earned that?
  • andrewinardeer
    Not available outside USA?
  • dbgrman
    "That's why all the work we do in growth is justified. All the questionable contact importing practices. All the subtle language that helps people stay searchable by friends. All of the work we do bring more communication in. The work we will likely have to do in China some day. All of it."BOZ. Meta's current CTO. Not too long ago.
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  • santiago-pl
    Right now we have those OpenClaw commercial alternatives: Grok Bot, Muse, Viktor. Anything more?
  • cautiouscat
    I’m sure general population won’t care but they’ve got me fucked up if they I’d ever use something like this. Glean my personal info and preferences the hard way! Through what insane videos I like on Instagram!
  • sergiotapia
    Knowing Facebook's behavior around user data why would anyone with memory of their behavior use this product?Why would you give them access to your accounts, your email, your purchase habits, your preferences, your communication style and more.How do they wash this stink off?
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  • dbg31415
    Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at HarvardZuck: Just ask.Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?Zuck: People just submitted it.Zuck: I don't know why.Zuck: They "trust me"Zuck: Dumb fucks
  • exizt88
    I'd give a lot to see the WA group chat between the Instinct founder and their VCs.
  • armanj
    "meta" and "personal". one of you is lying.
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  • lowbloodsugar
    "Your personal data is safe and secure"ROFLMAO
  • theplumber
    They stole my idea. I was working exactly on this! What should I do now?