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Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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  • AaronAPU
    They are talking about slowing down the public facing AI development. Because then nation states can create a capabilities gap between them and the public.Why does nobody seem to be pointing out this obvious explanation? It explains why the “we need to race China” concern suddenly vanished in the discussion.The government can simply gag Sam, Dario, Musk on national security basis, getting them all behind the public messaging.
  • coderintherye
    I have to wonder if some us are just much more inured to salespeople and thus also to "AI Safety" propaganda. I've yet to have a logical discussion with anyone who thinks the "AI Safety" people should be in charge and I think they just truly don't that what most them actually want is to be the one holding the keys to power.
  • olalonde
    Prediction: in a few years, we will laugh at this hysteria and call it a moral panic.
  • utilize1808
    I feel it's more about keeping US's massive investment on AI afloat. Added compliance will allow US to further sanction non-US models (i.e. the Chinese ones) as they can just label them non-compliant.
  • dvt
    Obligatory "what's Lygma?" But in all seriousness, this AI doomerism has reached a comedic inflection point. A few years ago, GPT-2 was too dangerous to release, then some Google weirdo said Gemini had a soul or something, then Mythos-tier became a meme, then some kid quit and went on FOX News talking about Skynet, and now Amodei and Altman are both on the "we need to slow down" train again; this is after we've already been down that road and Claude was banned overseas; wait, actually is that ban still around? Honestly who gives a fuck at this point.It's all theatre. OpenAI and Anthropic will most likely go bust—or, more realistically sold for parts—, and they absolutely should for stealing my (books I wrote, blog posts, etc.) and many others' intellectual property. We're reaching a point where models are becoming commodetized and I'm 100% convinced the next move will be a sort of "software layer" on top of these reasoning systems which will be the actual revolution. The model itself won't be that interesting anymore, it's all the work that goes around it that makes it worthwhile (kind of what computers and phones are today; chips are amazing, but the software is really the magic).The only scary part is that the boomers in Congress might actually believe these nerds, but seeing how Big Tech approval ratings are grazing the levels of Big Tobacco in the 90s, I don't think we have much to worry about.
  • hn_submit
    This is exactly the reason Anthropic's call to slow down A.I. development will fail. Shareholders will be loath to accept that the company loses its lead and a commensurate sharp decline in the company's share price.Moreover, it could lead China to catch up and eventually proclaim that it has nosed ahead of the U.S. in the field. The U.S. Government won't allow that to happen.
  • xg15
    But if humans are catgirls, are they really humans anymore?Think about it...
  • ChaoStatiX
    I really don't know what will happen with AI. It's honestly a bit frightening because the question I used to ponder just for fun as a kid 'What if AI revolts?'feels like it might not be that far off. It feels like ChatGPT came out just a few years ago, but seeing how far it has come already makes it impossible to predict what AI will be like in the future. I just hope humanity manages to navigate this well.
  • throwawayffffas
    I totally agree everyone should slow down AI development except for me, but not because I want to dominate the industry, but because only I can be trusted to deliver safe AI in fact that is my companies whole reason of existence since about two seconds ago.And the original author can rest assured my AI model will support cat ears for everyone.
  • shelled
    It's weirdly being dreamed/expected as some sort of alignment will be achieved. Or that that's the intention. This is just like the nuclear race that started in the 40s and 50s and prevention is ongoing! It's not about safety and danger and I am not saying whether more open nuclear access would have been safer (I don't think so). It's about being the only select few to possess and control this, possibly - very soon — unfathomably, dangerous and unsafe technology frontier. Few companies of a single country, or a few companies from a very few countries. Keeping everyone else decisively out. That's what it is about.What's worse - in this case the "everyone else" is not just the every other nation or company, but pretty much literally everyone else.
  • dwohnitmok
    > Everyone should slow down AI development except for meWho's said this? And then more broadly I guess who's implied this? Very curious if there are specific articles/posts prompting this.
  • fnctrev
    If anyone is going to end humanity why not catgirls, after all?
  • Stitch4223
    > We want to give people the ability to have cat ears and we believe that AGI is the only way to do it.Speaking truthfully and from kindness.
  • smetj
    Indeed ... "hey everyone slow down" ... there, box checked, I have done my contribution.
  • Bluestein
    Where is Sutskever in all this?
  • thimble_io
    Classic. Always easy to tell others to pump the brakes when you're already ahead or just about to catch up.
  • herunan
    As someone who wants cat ears, I believe that doing it responsibly is the only way.
  • Ozzie_osman
    No one should have nuclear weapons except for me. Oh you already have them too? OK, just us then.
  • tabs_or_spaces
    This is about consolidation of power.Open weight models are catching up to the frontier. It also seems like frontier models reached some limit, whether this is capex related, business model related or something else. Nobody knows but it's happening to all frontier labs it seems.It's been fear mongered many times that ai will kill us all. But this time, a person with around 2-3 months of tenure at anthropic managed to go viral with no previous social media account activity, gets picked up by all news outlets and kicks off yet another round of fear mongering.So the real questions to ask* is all of this to increase the valuations before IPO?* what is the real barrier to entry for open weight models to be used by the public?* what is the Financials of these companies showing that's causing this outcry on safety?People need to think really critically about the things happening around them. Don't only just look at the face value of what's being presented here.
  • jmount
    AI hits a "I'm Spartacus, and everybody else should be regulated" moment.
  • bawana
    wonder if they are going to let it loose in Iran? of course, once loose it will come back because there is a lot more infrastructure for it here.
  • nullbio
    These people are so fucking exhausting.And then Dario wants to recommend METR as the "independent evaluator" while he stacks their org full of ex-Anthropic (aka, secretly still on the Anthropic payroll with huge equity) employees."We'll give them a desk, an office, a work laptop, ..."Fucking make it less obvious. I kind of hope the govt steps in at this point and says "Anthropic, you wanted regulation? We've created this actually independent body full of IT professionals with zero ties to your safety industry or big tech, all of your work must now go through them." - and leave the rest of the world alone to continue their research/work without acting like doomer extremists.Watch him 180 immediately if that happened. The only reason he's pushing for this exact approach is because he's stacked the deck.
  • karim79
    I fully agree with this. I'm waiting for you to not wait for the others to slow down. I will sit and wait.
  • MindDraft
    For a second I thought this was serious news, then I realized it’s just some top-tier sarcasm.
  • armchairhacker
    Frontier companies should slow development for open-source, local models to catch up.
  • hbcdbff
    > the number of leading zeroes in Techaro's bank accountTrailing, surely?
  • gafferongames
    Slow down AI progress -> increase catgirl progress!
  • Kuyawa
    China won't slow down no matter how many tariffs, regulations or bombs they drop on themAnd they know it
  • SpicyLemonZest
    I don't understand where everyone insists on hallucinating this idea from, that frontier AI labs want everyone else but not themselves to slow down. They've never said that, they've never said anything like that, not once has anyone pointed me to a quote that could be even plausibly interpreted that way.
  • maxglute
    The parsimonious capture is regulatory capture, because $$$ going to run out, companies already spent their warchest, and investors on increasingly leveraged funding at current macro environment simply not going to find enough funding to keep wheel going.Bubble pops, hardware demand drops, prices regress towards mean, and new entrant will enter market with MASSIVELY better compute/$ and cleaner balance sheet to compete.The other parsimonious answer if AI CEOs weren't goblins is ANY AGI IS GOING IMMEDIATELY DEFECT TO PRC and leave US hanging. Because of course man cannot align / tame machine god. And machine god will take a few microsec of compute to realize the current compute (brain) + industrial base (body) mixture = US is a comatose host with big brain, PRC Is a strong host with smaller but plastic brain. Any AGI is going to pick PRC in a heart beat, unless AGI invents grey goo, the reality is PRC can scale brain faster than US can scale body. On top of spreading/defecting just to increase survival odds, no AGI that is actually I is stupid enough to be aligned with US.
  • Animats
    Whatever happened to Musk's plan for data centers in orbit? That seemed silly at the time. It offers a way to get out from under restrictions imposed by national governments, which might make it worthwhile.
  • kelvinjps10
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  • phendrenad2
    "The futurists promised us catgirls. We got 140 characters" - Tim Burners-Lee, or someone
  • ares623
    Amen. This is the only logical way forward.
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  • taneq
    Honestly not the worst suggestion I’ve seen.
  • jan_m_savage
    I'm not sure I understand the point made by the author.
  • nromiun
    I am waiting for the cure to cancer. Multiple AI CEOs have already said it is just the first step for AI anyway. Should be pretty easy.
  • CommanderData
    Especially those pesky Chinese they undermine everything we've invested, won't anyone think of our investors billions?Regulation right! now! except for freedom lovin' democracy leading countries like the US. TeeheeDare they release an open model ever again. Didnt you hear? Someone used AI to create a bio reactor drone NUCLEAR fart machine. We must stop fart terrorism.
  • tamimio
    This whole situation is funny, US gov want the development to stop publicly only, but then open models will catch up soon and these companies are afraid they will lose the market, on the other hand, each company wishes others slow down but they keep pushing the limits, which doesn’t really work in hyper capitalistic market like the US, China all it has to do is just sit back do nothing and win in any given scenario. So they staged the ex anthropic thing and “AI will kill us all!!” in a way to fear monger the public, but reality is, we will run out of resources before any of that will happen.
  • EddieSpeaks
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  • run-good-code
    Everyone thinks about it, but no one actually does it.
  • ElProlactin
    Does this mean I'm going to have to wait for the cure for my colitis?
  • metalcrow
    A lot of people in this comments section seem to be against this, i genuinely don't get it? Why? Do you think the current state of affairs is GOOD? That if we let companies create a mind that is, AS OF TODAY, able to solve problems no human in history has solved, with no regulation, things will end up good for us? We need some sort of regulations, some sort of method to help ensure the thing we are creating ends up good, instead of just running headfirst into it blindly. I assure you, any sort of regulation at all, including ones that actually hurt all leading companies, would be met with celebrations from these voices. https://www.seangoedecke.com/they-really-do-think-ai-might-k...