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  100percentjake
  Samsung smart appliances in general seem to occupy a similar place in the market to vehicles like the Chevy Traverse or Nissan Altima, where people with technical knowledge in that area know them to be absolute horrific maintenance and repair liabilities and yet the consumer base places them second to God.Obviously the review of a brand-new device or vehicle with 100 miles on it is going to have a disconnect from the realities of 60k miles of rocky ownership but I remain baffled when people buy a 7 year old used V6 Traverse, a vehicle extremely well known for catastrophic engine failure, and if I question their decision I get a "the reviews were good!". It seems like journalistic malpractice to not retroactively update reviews with a warning when critical widespread shortcomings are found later in a products life.
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  steveBK123
  This is the perfect story of 2020s era tech.Just total engineering incompetence of forced updates with new features for no reason that degrade core workflows and introduce needless instability.
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  9cb14c1ec0
  Meanwhile, my non-smart fridge continues to run just fine. Why do we need smart fridges? That was always a bad idea.
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  tacomagick
  Why is the fridge's cooling system is one with the smart features? They should be kept completely separate
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  Scubabear68
  This is my fear on the car side, as smart features start leaking from isolated areas in automobiles into the larger CAN bus....
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  rkuska
  Gilfoyle's take on Smart Fridges: > This thing is addressing problems that don't exist. It's solutionism at its worst.
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  kfoley
  For anyone looking to disconnect their Samsung appliances from the web while keeping local control through Home Assistant, there's LocalThings[0].I found it after learning that Samsung is planning to start charging $5 a month for API access but another benefit is reducing the risk of something like this.[0]: https://github.com/mbillow/localthings
• zaphar
  I've given up on not buying "smart $thing". It seems nearly impossible in many cases. However I absolutely refuse to connect them to my wifi which mostly makes them "dumb" for me.
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  saadn92
  Maybe not everything needs to be smart.
• zkmon
  Need #1: we need a fridge. Need #2: we need it to be smart Need #3: we need it connected to internet Need #4: we need it to be controlled by the seller.Excessive needs bring you excessive pain.
• robrain
  Yesterday I learnt that Samsung has a Royal Warrant in the UK.TIL that they really shouldn’t.
• steveBK123
  Besides Samsung incompetence, I think smart fridges were probably solving the right problem (some sense of efficiency / time saving in grocery management) the wrong way (sensors/cameras/connected fridge).It turns out that grocery stores with real time inventory on websites & pickup/delivery are a much better solution.I have my weekly order I add my usuals to, and then add items to the cart all week as I noticed I am out/low while making dinner.
• jakzurr
  Why would any company have firmware updates pushed during a holiday? For that matter, why would you do a lot all at once, rather than spreading them out? I didn't see any info about some critical "vulnerability." Maybe I missed it.
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  petcat
  Never owned a Samsung appliance, but I had a Samsung smart TV for about year. Worst piece of technology I have ever owned and threw it in the trash and got a Roku.
• charles_f
  Thanks to AI and IoT, we can now have vibe coded fridges and ovens that might have fantastic features and work 80% of the time!The future truly is incredible
• Telaneo
  So when will Samsung be compensating affected owners for their spoilt food?
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  __sy__
  i know it's maybe an unpopular thing to say to OEMs, but i do think some should adopt an open firmware stack to prevent post-discontinuation bricking and flex that somehow in their marketing. I'd buy that, especially for a larger appliance.
• Balooga
  My parents still have the fridge they received as a wedding present in 1969 from my mom's parents. Still running as the second fridge in the garage.
• nullorempty
  Makes me think of all who hope to return to life from cryonics one day :)
• crtasm
  dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49815381 1 day ago | 270 comments
• chinathrow
  Speaking of fridges, did anything come to light about that mass failing of gov run fridges we had here a few weeks ago?
• clickety_clack
  What is the best quality fridge that is just a compressor connected to an insulated box?
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  nphardon
  Can't wait for refrigerators to require 2FA.
• tonymet
  The lesson here is that technology doesn’t always move in a positive direction. “Primitive” technology (e.g. simpler ICs, electro-mechanical machines, purely mechanical machines) can often be far better than the “modern” solutions.This extends all the way up to software. Be wary when someone pushes a modern replacement of a reliable and effective tool you already have.
• sixothree
  I had a samsung fridge. Every year it would spoil all of the food inside of it. The temperature reading on the outside would say 35 (1.5 c) but the food inside would be warm and spoiled.It only happened when it was particularly cold outside. I eventually figured out that there is an external temperature sensor that causes the fridge to stop cooling below a certain external temperature. And that space in the kitchen was particularly cold in the back. But I could never read it below 55, so I think the sensor was faulty.But the reading on the front is what really annoyed me. I had to keep a thermometer inside the fridge so that I didn't accidentally eat food that felt cool enough but was bad.This happened every year. I eventually gave it away for free, with a warning to the person.
• sn0n
  If you have a fridge that new… you are probably fine.
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  ryukoposting
  What a profoundly idiotic way to design a smart fridge. Shame on Samsung for designing their product in such a way that this was even possible.Granted, I think the very concept of a smart fridge is a bad idea no matter how you execute on it... but they still managed to take a bad idea and execute on it badly. Amazing.
• Aeolun
  How?! The only thing you need to do is test it on the friggin fridge?!
• phendrenad2
  To err is human, to really mess up your software you need a hardware engineer.
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• starkeeper
  Why can't we have dumb appliances please. It used to be a Joke used to sell java claiming it would be great in your toaster...
• nekusar
  "Smart" is stupid. It's primarily just a way to tie subscription shit and advertisements, and lock in DRM (and laws protecting DRM) on what used to be perfectly fine hardware."Smart" that I can back is simple sensor acquisition over open protocols. I would appreciate being able to MONITOR my fridge/freezer/stove/oven/washer/dryer. Changing shit over those connections is not needed, nor wanted.
• drob518
  Sigh. Anything + computer = computer
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  Razengan
  Fridges with spyware.Idiots who still laugh at "conspiracy theorists" deserve this shit upon them heh
• Plainharbor21
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• boringg
  Smart fridges are a waste. Why would you need AI on your fridge - maybe to brick them so people need to buy more fridges?I was at the store and one fridge had built in cameras so you could get pictures of your fridge all the time. :S