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  askonomm
  Any move away from the abusive big tech that exists in USA is a good move in my book. Microsoft just recently made a new patent where they will monitor you via camera and microphone to block your program/game to show you ads, and per ads viewed, you then earn credit to be able to use your program/game. It is absolutely wild to me how a corporation can be so toxic and abusive to its users and still be in business.
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  hashar
  France government has announced NixOS based systems some months ago:- https://github.com/cloud-gouv/securix a hardened/secured os- https://github.com/cloud-gouv/bureautix-example an example to use securix to build an office deployment (with some packages https://github.com/cloud-gouv/bureautix-example/blob/main/co... )
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  solarkraft
  Awesome! I believe NixOS is perfect for systems you just want to work and track reproducibly, like appliances (which a lot of server software is supposed to be). I’m glad people smarter than me are actually able to realize its advantages =)In the same space, also check out openDesk initiated by the German Government (https://www.opendesk.eu/en) and La Suite by the French one (https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/).AFAIK, there has been some collaboration with the German government on La Suite, not sure about the others.
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  ricardobeat
  A note to the developers in the project, if anyone is reading: your repositories are in violation of the new Codeberg policy that forbids AI-generated code [1].[1] https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...
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  fbn79
  The highest problem is the office suite. If you think Libreoffice/Collabora can replace Microsoft 365 without friction the project could be a success. Honestly I do not think so as of today.
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  frzen
  Do we even need to have a suite of tools for users to create spreadsheets, paste images into them, save them as a PDF, download to their local machine, sync to sharepoint, change permissions to include everyone in the entire universe to be able to see the file, email the link to another human in the company who opens it, uses a PDF editor to copy paste it back into excel, barely scratch the surface of tools within Excel to sum a column, reply back in a password protected word doc saying looks good to me.I would much prefer to be using something like NixOS and not be depending on Microsoft etc but I can't imagine what the stack will look like if we don't revolutionise the work. Sensitivity labels, DLP, etc. are relics of people treating information on computers as if they are physical documents, and I can't see how I will have been paying for BP/E3/E5 licenses for users and then suddenly start to argue we don't need those features anymore after spending so long insisting users need to use them.
• vanschelven
  For a second I was worried that the actual code behind this was dead in the water ("3 months ago") but it's just one more click away:https://code.overheid.nl/MinBZK/DAWO-NixOS
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  carlsborg
  I hope someone is security scanning all those NixOS provider modules.I wonder if Claude could go from NixOS spec to actual config without the Nixos provider. The provider becomes a natural language description and some links to the docs/source code and then a verifier is all you need.
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• ritzaco
  Workplace is such a confusing overloaded term.They also have "Mijn Bureau" which I tried out and wrote about here [0] which is the MS Office alternative.I take it this is the layer below that, an operating system?But it all looks quite fragmented still from what I can see, especially now that it's also split across GitHub and CodeBerg as well as being split across different organizations, and trying to collaborate with other efforts by other European countries while still remaining distinct.[0] https://techstackups.com/articles/is-it-feasible-to-self-hos...[1] https://github.com/MinBZK/mijn-bureau-infra[2] https://code.overheid.nl/MinBZK/DAWO/src/branch/main/compone...
• koe123
  FINALLY. I have been seeing other projects based on eg Fedora and I just think: why. Declarative, open source, and reproducible is the future.
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  pards
  > What DAWO stands for> DAWO brings public values and technology together. The community pursues five primary goals.But fails to state what the letters in D.A.W.O. stand for
• ourmandave
  As long as it has a built-in "VBScript like" lang, they'll be fine.Are they going with Copilot for Dutchies or Kaaskoppen.NET?
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  bialyalibaba
  Nixpkgs should reduce package count. Waiting 2 days for unbound CVE patch merge is unbearable.
• hn_submit
  Why aren't they using Linux Mint for their desktop? It's European too and easy enough even for Windows users.
• armcat
  The link doesn't work for me.
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  parlortricks
  This is great, would love to understand why Nix over Lix or Guix.
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  Yizahi
  The same Dutch who voted on the eAIDS... ahem, sorry, eIDAS and ADDW car spyware? I'm not particularly excited about our new benevolent OS.
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  KomoD
  Site doesn't work for me.www.dawo.community took too long to respond.
• mg794613
  Thanks Trump, Europe was never this united before.Not by your choosing, but still.
• anthk
  Guix has reproducibility. Instead of Nonguix, which bundles tons of propietary software, they can just add the Fearware repo, which just has the tainted non-free vanilla Linux kernel with closed blobs and firmware, just enough to function your machine well (especially with 3D support for Radeon cards and wireless devices) and nothing more.
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  einpoklum
  What is it that they need/add above NixOS defaults?
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  sneak
  I’m really curious to see what the answer for MDM and Group Policy is on Linux. The SSO part is mostly figured out, but the reason places use Windows is often manageability.Is there anyone doing MDM or policy enforcement on Linux other than Google Workspace + chromebooks?
• shevy-java
  First off - decoupling from Trump-USA is a must. Canadians noticed this; european countries are still slow. The Netherlands is faster; the biggest slow-ass behemoth is Germany - no clue why. Germany is a big reason why the EU fails, but also the expansionistic agenda and what not (why do only poor countries want to join the EU; UK left, Switzerland and Norway are not going to join, so there are indeed INTERNAL problems, but let's go back to the dependency on the USA).So while more alternatives here are the logical answer, as well as eliminate the greedy US corpoations, I am not sure NixOS as it is right now is ideal. On paper, NixOS should solve EVERYTHING. For instance, if a build status works for one user, the environment guarantee should mean it works for EVERYONE ELSE. Same with other problems and hardware, so in theory, NixOS should be perfect.In practice, though, I found working with NixOS annoying, for many reasons. A static system that has issues, is not good. A static system that restricts me in problem solving, is not good. Plus, Nix is ugly to no ends - I have no idea why the NixOS team thought a new programming language is required. Why do I need to define static elements in Nix? Why not make that more free form? I already describe my whole system via yaml files, which in turn ruby uses to generate everything I need. Then there are smaller issues, like why do I need to use systemd on NixOS, why can I not used versioned AppDirs with a name scheme similar to GoboLinux (hashed program directories on NixOS are, of course, also versioned app-dirs, but I hate reading 7897389nughuewz789gewh2t93h923-hghwugeiw73, that simply tells me nothing. Why not have /Programs/Python/3.15.0/ ? It can't be simpler than that.)Anyway - good for the Netherlands to push here, Denmark, Sweden, Finland will also push, even France, though slower. Now please everyone, help us convince the german government to stop being such a tool for Trump. Merz is a failure anyway, but the problems go far deeper than merely Trump, and with the AfD going to seize power, idiocy will again dominate in Germany. That's very bad. Germany is soooooooo slow here. Microsoft even managed to kill LiMux years ago. They have placed their economic hitmen in Germany, so the whole EU does not work anyway because Germany will keep on dragging every other country down. It is thus very understandable why real innovation comes from the smaller countries in the EU, as they are quicker to innovate. Unfortunately the big german behemoth will roll over them and again cripple many required things in the EU.
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  jimnotgym
  To save anyone else I asked Claude"NixOS is a Linux distribution where your whole system is defined in one configuration file."I didn't get that from looking at their website...