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Flock Wants the Most Detailed Map of Its Surveillance Cameras Taken Offline

Flock Wants the Most Detailed Map of Its Surveillance Cameras Taken Offline

bookofjoe

Comments (74)

  • tothrowaway
    > [Doppel] filed a trademark infringement complaint regarding his site, claiming to be working on Flock’s behalf. Doppel says that the site is using the trademark “FLOCK SAFETY” without authorizationWarning to anyone who receives these types of notices from Doppel. They are a defamation-as-a-service company. If the frivolous trademark notice doesn't work, they will follow it up with a letter to your host claiming that you're running a phishing website. If your host is lazy and paranoid (like OVH), they will block your IP immediately, and you'll have to deal with the fallout. Expect the letter to be sent on a Friday afternoon too.
  • rglover
    IMO, when they have to hide, that's the beginning of the end. Too many people are aware of the what/why now. And above all else, once the tables turn on elected officials and they realize they're under the same surveillance, I bet their tune will change (likely due to a public egg-on-face moment involving illegal or suspicious activity). If people keep the pressure on, this will be a "remember when" rather quickly.
  • bilekas
    I am starting a surveillance company in the US. I'll sell the data to anyone who wants. I'll put cameras up wherever I like, call it protection of the people, the police will enjoy it doing a lot of work for them and then I'll point cameras squarely at my competition, 24 hours a day, 365 a year, until they ask for regulations.If anyone would like to kickstart let me know.
  • derbOac
    If Flock wants to be used by public services, it should be subject to maximum transparency. If you don't want your camera locations public, don't offer them to the public for their use.
  • AKSF_Ackermann
    I would like to point out that the website in question has a button to download the entire dataset. Probably would be a good idea to save a copy.
  • failbuffer
    Direct link to the map: https://flocksurveillance.org/
  • JKCalhoun
    I still want to see a driving game, perhaps using Google maps, where you try to get from point A to point B and not pass any Flock cameras.
  • yboris
    I wonder what fraction of Flock cameras will be destroyed during National DeFlock Day (Halloween).
  • NDlurker
    If they have nothing to hide, what are they afraid of?
  • anon
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  • adonovan
    Flock: We’re supposed to be the surveilleurs, you see.
  • ortusdux
    Could the map's creator be held liable if Flock can demonstrate this map in particular was used to destroy cameras?
  • NoboruWataya
    Interesting that the site is only available in the US. I wonder why that is.
  • bookofjoe
  • forshaper
    Axon and Motorola must be pretty satisfied with all this.
  • annoyingnoob
    Hey just like my car, when it is in public you can't expect privacy. The cameras cam track us in public but we can't track the cameras in public? Sorry if you take away my privacy then I'll take away yours too. Everything tracked, logged, and cataloged.
  • heliomattress
    flock CEO's last name is "Langley" ? you can't make this stuff up.
  • Simulacra
    It's public information. Courts have already ruled that if it's in public, you can photograph and document it. If anything, this will be a giant Streisand effect.
  • aussieguy1234
    Could this map be seeded as a torrent? Not so easy to take down...
  • ironqcold
    [dead]
  • FridayoLeary
    Sigh.It's time Americans learnt a few facts about the rest of the world..Pretty much every major road in the UK is covered in ANPR. Yes, the UK sucks in many ways, but ANPR is nowhere near as bad as the haters think it is.It's not the penultimate step towards authoratarianism.
  • adolph
    Clickbait. The website proprietor received a 3rd party trademark infringement complaint. If people in the company would prefer the map to be offline, they are taking a very roundabout way of accomplishing it. On Thursday, Michael was notified that Doppel, which describes itself as an “AI-native social engineering defense platfom,” filed a trademark infringement complaint regarding his site, claiming to be working on Flock’s behalf. Doppel says that the site is using the trademark “FLOCK SAFETY” without authorization, which “may cause customer confusion / harm.” Doppel requested the site be taken down.