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  Lalabadie
  Am I just out of touch with our times if I think hand-wavey usage limits on a 500$ subscription is crazy?
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  x313
  Horrid value.Previous $200 tier: 20x pro valueNew $200 tier: 10xNew $500 tier: 25x, plus ultrafast mode but it drains 6x the cost (!!)
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  minimaxir
  > New subscriptions that aren’t eligible for grandfathering include a lower usage allowance than previously offered with Pro 200 to reflect our increasingly efficient models.actual lol
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  rafram
  I guess they got tired of people saying Codex plans were a better value than Claude Code.
• solfox
  It's actually insane how often I switch between Anthropic and Codex subscriptions. The experience on these platforms is a bit like riding a roller coaster.
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  bhelkey
  > See the pricing page for a comparison of the features and usage included in each plan.Does anyone see the usage limits? I don't see anything indicating how much usage is in each tier.I checked:* https://chatgpt.com/pricing/* https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-about-chatgpt-pr...* https://chatgpt.com/#pricing (signed in plan upgrade page)
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  shepherdjerred
  ChatGPT Plus: 1x usage, $20Pro 100: 5x usage, $100Pro 200: 10x usage, $200 (previously was 20x usage, $200)Pro 500: 25x usage, $500So, essentially scaling is equal. You get the same amount of usage from 25 ChatGPT Pro accounts as you do from one Pro 500 account.It's fair, but a big of a rug pull considering how good of a deal Pro 200 was.
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  buckleyourshoe
  I wonder how this will go with the new releases like MiMo-v2.6-Pro or future GLM, DeepSeek, and Kimi releases around the corner. Once planned with Fable or Astra, the build process isn't much different with the open weight models from my usage.
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  damsta
  People complained about burning their weekly usage in a day on Pro 200, so OpenAI's response to that is an even more expensive plan?
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  therepanic
  It's funny how, just before that, they tactfully cut the limits on the $200 subscription.
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  tonyedgecombe
  What a strange idea to name your product after it's price.
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  ferrouswheel
  Lowering usage limits, increasing price.This is just the beginning. Migrate to open models ASAP.
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  TomGarden
  Venture capital doesn't want to pay for our tokens anymore, it seems
• bottlepalm
  Reading the original post and replies on X is hilarious https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2104823812042940713
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  xaksnTMu2
  For a second I was worried I somehow missed 490 versions.
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  yzydserd
  Great naming scheme that doesn’t even survive exchange rates, or future price changes.
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  Jayakumark
  Could hire real people in India for this cost - Fresh college under grads are paid like $250 per month or less for a month working 9hours x 5.5 to 6 days.Edit: I meant its not worth it just for Dots Personal assistant ,also comparing to previous pricing of $200 - For $500 you got previously 5x more than previous $200 Pro pricing (which was 20x now is 10x). I can have real people who can drive or do physical deliveries etc, just on the delta.
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  1970-01-01
  At this rate I expect end-to-end work getting done, no babysitting whatsoever. The agents should literally be calling me and talking about their problem if something needs my input.
• 5555watch
  My favorite comparison was that we're basically buying a GTX 1070 Ti every month, except instead of a GPU we get some extra productivity.
• jletts
  $6k a year on the top monthly rolling subscription vs buying a Mac… There’s an extra 20% of sales tax on that subscription cost in the U.K., but that’s a different matter entirely
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  kube-system
  To those balking at the price: this is just the beginning.Subscription pricing will eventually compete with labor costs
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  glub
  This day may go down in history as one of the worst in OpenAI's history. It's so bad it's funny.OpenAI announced they built clones of apps that already exist, codex for normal people, and 2.5x price increase for the product that is already getting decimated by competition.What is happening at OpenAI?I can't imagine OpenAI not backtracking this unless Anthropic does the price hike too.
• mococa
  Sure, then the AI will poke more tokens, more unreadeable code
• Robdel12
  Yeah no. $200 was the top for me. Which doesn't super matter to me, I pretty much only use luna. I can't tell the difference between luna vs sol/astra other than those larger models do more ambitious things that I don't ask for.
• sdcfgy
  I'm tired of this.
• KronisLV
  I had the 200 USD subscription for a bit, with the change to it I'm downgrading to 100 USD and might move back to Anthropic in entirety since they fixed the Opus 5 slop writing issue with Opus 5.5 (though their 200 USD plan is also a lie with bad marketing, around 1.7x weekly tokens). Or maybe just keep two 100 USD subscriptions and see how they compare.It's crazy that people will have to pay 500 USD for only slightly more (and faster) usage of basically what I already enjoyed for the past few weeks. And even I got close to hitting weekly limits doing regular development across a bunch of codebases (admittedly it was on Astra High).I feel like even the 500 USD subscriptions are not "get out of my face with those limits for all single developer use cases" (not even that many overnight tasks, I might have run a few here and there, and not even full 8 hours of work a day), but soon you'll have people needing multiple of those 500 USD subscriptions, unless they pull off crazy token efficiency gains for how the models work.Guess the economics are catching up to AI companies, sucks that I don't have a bunch of money to burn every month.
• derfurth
  Given that I burn through 2 x $200 subscriptions, I really hope Sol 6.1 is indeed as good as Astra (￣ー￣；
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  Hawkenfall
  Why would I pay $500 now when the $200 features were just rug-pulled? I mean, Pro 1000 is on the horizon at this point, no?
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  LarsDu88
  Is this Astra running on Cerebras?
• stldev
  > If your Pro 200 subscription was active at the eligibility cutoff or during the seven days before it, you’re eligible to keep your previous included usage allowance through Oct 29, 2026 while you have an active Pro 200 subscription.Got it, calendar updated: switch back to Claude on the 29th.I realize this may be an unpopular opinion, but I feel the FTC should start looking at things like this. If a well funded company can bait the market long enough to drown most everyone else out then double their price overnight (ok, 30 days..) doesn't competition just become a matter of who has the deepest pockets?
• dawarwani03
  Interesting
• leftouterjoins
  DeepSeek 4.1 Flash is good enough for me thanks.
• VCFundedGenYer
  Pure scam pricing.
• KellyCriterion
  Great, now they told us what the lowest price will be per month, after their IPO
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  jdw64
  Is AI development hitting its limits?The performance changes between models are almost static. Recently, GPT has shifted almost entirely toward token efficiency.Astra is good at making 3D assets, but realistically its coding was not as good as GPT 5.6 Sol.Have we reached a point where getting better at one thing means starting to get worse at another?This announcement is the worst one yet.Nerfing existing usage A more expensive top-tier plan Showing off how slow Dots is right in the demo video And GPT Space—are they telling us to use it instead of Notion or what...Overall, throughout the entire announcement, everything OpenAI wants me to look forward to just leaves me, as a developer, disappointed.
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  isoprophlex
  > If your Pro 200 subscription was active at the eligibility cutoff or during the seven days before it, you’re eligible to keep your previous included usage allowance through Oct 29, 2026 while you have an active Pro 200 subscription.> After that date, your subscription will move to the lower included usage allowance. Your subscription price stays at $200/month.Imagine buying this shit for a year, upfront, and then having to deal with this. Nice.
• ChrisArchitect
  Related:Tomorrow we are re-opening the Pro $200 subscriptionhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49889306
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  chaostheory
  At this price points (including the reduction of usage on the Pro 200 and Pro 100 subscriptions), more people will be looking buying their own hardware and running with open weight AIs. $6000 per year is the threshold
• rfgplk
  Decent(-ish), but doesn't provide good value for the money, sadly. They still refuse to tell you exactly how much usage you're paying for. My original suggestion a few months ago was to provide a $500/$1000 tier but make it _unlimited_, which this doesn't appear to be.
• adamrezich
  Very cool how I'm supposed to feel good about paying $200/mo (a VERY expensive subscription!) for months, just to be told that in the near (but not immediate) future this subscription will lose half of its value and then I'll have to pay 2.5x as much to get 1.25x the value I used to get.Fuck that shit!
• VelkaMorava
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