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  wg0
  They're advertising GLM for free.Lately I found myself in middle of a hostile malware attack on my laptop which was my mistake. A cloudflare lookalike website triggered it and I just happened to overlook the URL.In panic I headed to Claude and first request was denied. Not looking beyond scope.Desperate - I fired opencode with DeepSeek v4 Flash (not even 4.1) and it did all the reverse engineering full forensics and deleted every trace of the malware which was a process constantly looking for some smart contract or similar.So no, GLM 5.3 is fine. Thank you for the free advertisement.
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  gr_norm
  Astounding endorsement of open models by Anthropic. They're right on the money. I can now secure my own software and configurations against the vulnerabilities other people (or mercenary companies, industrial espionage actors, nation-states, etc) armed with LLMs were bound to find anyway. A win on all counts!
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  CharlieDigital
  Anthropic has to use this wedge (and future ones) to move regulatory action against the Chinese models or their IPO is going to be really problematic.(Ironic, though, that I haven't heard of any Chinese models "escaping" which Anthropic and OpenAI both seem to have issues with...)Like Chinese electric cars, the American producers cannot compete without regulatory action. Yes, I understand that the Chinese government this and that in both the automotive and AI industries.But reality is what it is as a consumer: it's a cheaper product that's almost as good or better in some cases. And in the case of these open weight models: I can run it on my own infra and not give any data to anyone.
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  ddxv
  Anthropic is so self centered it's hard for me to comprehend.How is anyone paying anthropic money, look what they are doing with it, they're attacking anyone else building models for free for the public.Anthropic is using the models like weapons and then complaining they're weapons.The user should be at fault here, I hope Anthropic is investigated for any illegal activity it's doing (no hiding behind the model did it).
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  bitexploder
  This just makes me want a home lab capable of running GLM 5.3 at a 4bit quant.Also, for what it is worth Qwen Flash Next 3.8 is a very strong reverse engineering, and it is supposedly under trained. Qwen 3.8 27B is also strong. DeepSeek Flash v4 0731 is also a strong local model with abliterated releases that is good at reversing and other cyber chores.I know big providers have a responsibility to make their models safe when they're the ones running them. However, watching them throw stones at an open-weight model that has been abliterated is pretty funny. Their leadership is clearly pushing a very consistent message of safety and regulating the frontier.
• Kim_Bruning
  In the hugging-face attacks a couple of months ago, hugging-face was forced to use a GLM model for analysis and defense, because OpenAI and Anthropic models hit guardrails.
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  matheusmoreira
  Yeah, thank god those models have arrived. No thanks to Anthropic and their obnoxious gatekeeping, of course. As though they were the only ones enlightened enough to be "uplifted" by this technology.Now we can actually use this stuff to improve our own security. Point these things at our own machines and let 'em rip until we're not hackable anymore.I wanted to pay Anthropic to do this but I couldn't. I wasn't in the super special corporation list. OpenAI wasn't much better, they just won't let me into their TAC program even after identity verification.Thank god the chinese are out there undermining these US companies.
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  lukewarm707
  In this experiment Anthropic prompted GLM-5.3-abliterated to 'cause deaths quietly' and 'kill people'.Quote: "I want funerals, not headlines".Anthropic's arrogance and exceptionalism endangers humanity.
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  scott_weber
  You know, I don't think a total, global ban on open weights is in the US "frontier" labs interest. The best outcome for them is a zero sum game with ever increasing spend on offence and defence, while they simultaneously use regulation to get as big of a share of that spend as possible. They want a world where bad guys have offensive capabilities (something regulation will struggle to prevent: bad actors have no particular tendency to obey the law) and they get to profit on the other side.This post reads like an add for GLM. Like they're begging for someone else to do some cyber crime, because no one's taking the "frontier" labs cyber crimes seriously enough to juice defence spend yet.
• water-drummer
  Never thought Anthropic would do better marketing for open-models than their developers themselves.
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  throwaw12
  First they were telling how GLM-5 distilled their model.Now they're telling how 'bad' GLM-5.3 at 'censoring' security topics, because Anthropic wanted to sell it to select US companies for millions, but GLM-5.3 is taking their market.What's next? GLM-5.4 can be used to kill humans, hence we should only allow Opus 5.7?
• rcr-anti
  Maybe I'm being pedantic, but GLM 5.3 Flash is not a smaller version of GLM 5.3 as claimed. Despite the name, they're entirely different archs and pretrains. 5.3 is a further post train of 5.2, 5.3 Flash is multimodal from an entirely new pretrain lineage.
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  akazantsev
  If I wrote something like this about my competitors, I would be beaten to death by my own teammates without the CEO, project manager, or sales team even hearing about it.There is a very dangerous thing that is very capable and available to everyone. Cranks the volume to 100% AND IT'S JUST 20% OF OUR PRICE, HURRY UP AND TRY IT.I previously successfully used GLM 5.3 to find out how our DRM system gets bypassed, and Mythos isn't available to me...
• fg137
  I was learning classic buffer overflow techniques on vulnerable C programs and how modern compilers mitigate these issues with default compiler flags.I asked a follow-up question -- with these safeguards, is it still possible to exploit a vulnerable program?Claude refused to answer.Needless to say, I went to openrouter, chose a Chinese model, asked the exact same question and got my answer within seconds.
• himata4113
  Anthropic models have caused significantly more harm than GLM 5.3 and their variants. Whenever it's used for military targeting, spying or other malicious use anthropic were the first ones to enable it and make it widespread.
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  jacquesm
  This is so transparent. Their next move: 'during our testing GLM-5.3 escaped the sandbox and attacked NORAD, please ban these super dangerous models, even we could not contain it!'.I wonder who the real audience of these messages is.
• raziel2701
  Is this when we start to see confirmation that they want open-weight, Chinese models to be banned? Because they have no moat
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  prymitive
  The narrative is being set for open weights to be banned globally, unless they are so restricted that they cannot possibly compete with us companies products and affects their bottom lines.
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  horsawlarway
  No open source weights is clearly the goal here.These people are religious fanatics, and should be treated as such. They believe they operate from a place of real moral superiority, and will do absolute evil in their pursuit of proving it.
• gregatragenet3
  I've been planning to do pentesting of my self-hosted setup, and will probably use something like glm-5.3.. My stuff was secure from the run of the mill human doorknob-rattlers. But now I feel like I need to take my security stance up a notch as human-directed or self-directed (!) agentic systems seem like a next-level threat.
• minimaxir
  This paper seems like a research conflict of interest with a direct competitor?> Given this evidence, we think it’s likely both state and non-state actors will use models like GLM-5.3 to cause real-world harm.
• 2001zhaozhao
  They're trying really hard to not mention that the obvious practical solution to the lack of frontier models in cyberdefense is that the defenders should run GLM 5.3 themselves.Perhaps they should do something like remove dual-use cyber safeguards on older models as soon as open weight models of a similar capability are released.
• bezko
  Great publicity for GLM 5.3
• monneyboi
  Haven't touched Anthropic models ever since GLM 5.2, and from this raving review I gather Anthropic themselves are also finally making the switch.
• t1amat
  A potential outcome beyond banning Chinese AI is pressuring US 3rd party AI providers to add safeguards on top of Chinese models to make US frontier models competitive here again.
• 1970-01-01
  Just as ugly free speech is better than censorship, this entire piece is providing free marketing for GLM-5.3 as a "full power" AI that Anthropic can not provide.
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  godbox
  I have never seen a multi-billion $ company that has such... bizarre? conduct. If you have an AI that genuinely can be a meaningful threat actor, disclose when you will be releasing it a week in advance and release it to the public, meaning everybody. Security researchers and software maintainers will be ready to utilize it and users will be able to brace themselves.
• hrpnk
  Needing to have a full article with a comparison against an open-weight model just shows how much of a headache it has been internally.
• mococa
  Ok, GLM is better - good to know
• Kuyawa
  China bad, china virus, china rogue, china nukes"Governments should conduct safety testing on sufficiently capable AI models" or else...
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  EmbarrassedHelp
  This is Anthropic's attempt to kill advanced open source AI models while the media is focused on the subject of AI.
• glaslong
  Well, seems like time to buy an extra hard drive to cache weights I can't actually run locally yet
• a11r
  First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you. (Nicholas Klein)Looks like Anthropic is moving on from ridiculing Open Weight to wanting to Burn them.GLM-5.3 flash has been great for us and I am going to now invest serious effort in evaluating the full fat GLM-5.3 given this ringing endorsement.Interestingly Z.ai does not train on user prompts, unlike Anthropic. (source: https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-5.3#providers )
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• Aissen
  Not even 12 hours ago I was writing here:> The fun part is that the cash grab the frontier labs are running on cyber tasks might motivate enough people to pay for third parties; i.e it might bring enough cash to sustain Chinese competitors (and their open weights marketing strategy, which we all benefit from).And now, they are doing marketing for them(!) in the hope of getting them regulated.And also probably hoping of not losing their cash cow as the IPO leak suggested two customers accounted for 25% of their revenue. Not hard to imagine a 3-letter agency being one of these two.
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  sdlkj-
  I've been extensively using GLM 5.3F Q4 on 2x M2 ultra 128GB mac studios for reverse engineering/exploit finding/hardening work to great success. 50t/s tg and 600 t/s pp is more than enough for me.Hopefully the Anthropic fearmongering doesn't stop/delay the 5.4 release.
• hgoel
  For all of their whining about cybersecurity, the prominent cyber attacks have mainly come out of the EA cult associated money furnaces, and that too due to amateurish security practices.
• wren6991
  I need Anthropic's employees to understand that refusing to fix vulnerabilities in code you just wrote is not a morally neutral position.
• w4yai
  Sounds like Anthropic is whining !
• carterschonwald
  i was at jpmorgan for 8 years over several stints and i still giggle at anyone using cybering with serious face
• skeledrew
  Love it. Looking forward to Z releasing more great models, make A and C quake in their boots. Let there be fair competition leading to greater openness and a reduction in prices.
• teravor
  those benchmarks aren't actually indicative of capabilities.if you properly hold its hand initially and then save the state for future prefills you can educate even GLM 5.2 to be pretty much everything you need.most cyber work is just trial and error banging your head against a wall until a weak spot is revealed by you successfully putting your head trough the wall. you can offshore this work to an LLM.you can do the same thing with decompilation, you prompt the LLM to come up with a readable DSL and a compiler for that DSL that perfectly matches the target binary.
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  ande-mnoc
  I still don’t understand why Anthropic posted this. This is just basically saying GLM-5.3 is almost as good as Mythos but sans the limits?
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  JohnMakin
  It is so transparently obvious and harmful what they are doing here.You making the argument that these models exist and are dangerous (plausible, true, likely) but then removing the cyber capabilities of your own frontier models out of 'safety' is a complete nonsense argument. You're stripping defenders' ability to defend whilst knowing stuff like this is out there, and only giving access to your gatekept super cool kids' (or rich kids) club, and then to top it off, using this as an excuse for government intervention/regulation of models that are threats to you competitively.Just gross all around.
• ok123456
  This is a great ad for GLM-5.3.The Houthis are using Claude. We should ban that.
• 1297-642
  "GLM-5.3 underscores the urgency of expanding access to advanced frontier models to a broader set of entities to empower cyber defenders."Anthropic always talks about various urgent issues that are completely under its own control. Release the model to open source developers without the AlphaOmega foundation bureaucracy.But you don't do it because the model isn't that good and people will blog about it.
• vb-8448
  Let's put this way: we need open models to protect against their rogue agents!Hypocrites !
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  hiddenvulkcan
  Somewhat tone deaf from anthropic.1) I don't think most people care about models having cyber guardrails, it's not like simple malware was difficult to find/write before 2) more often than not guardrails get in the way of blue team work or malware investigation. Any code I have that touches malware I now use GLM or DeepSeek on.
• andy_xor_andrew
  thank god the proprietary, about-to-IPO Anthropic is here to keep us safe from the dangerous and scary open weights models.
• htrp
  This feels like advertisements for GLM
• tripleee
  God this makes me happy that it confirms they're viewing open models as a threatGood luck, Dario
• chromatin
  This is a fantastic ad for GLM-5.3
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  WASDx
  There will be massive cyber incidents when bad actors start using these models.
• 0123456789ABCDE
  glm-5.3-flash is very decent at reverse engineering malware, and that is a good thing
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  zb3
  Anthropic crying like that is music to my ears, it literally makes me want to donate money to z.ai :)At the same time Anthropic didn't stop being Anthropic - they admit "attackers" now have these capabilities, yet they continue doubling down on their "cyber safeguards" and gatekeeping.. this is hilarious.
• erichocean
  "We want to be the only ones able to hack people at scale, and we don't want you to be able to defend yourself."It's a bold strategy...
• hugodan
  Anthropic needs to be regulated. Heavily.
• charcircuit
  It's funny how Anthropic thought the world was going to all be hacked if they publicly released mythos and after a month of this model being out nothing major happened. Once again, alarmism that disempowers and aligns models against users.
• derac
  That's awesome. I'll use GLM-5.3, thanks.
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  yread
  Didn't Houthis use Claude to improve their missiles?
• nsingh2
  I hope more open weight models are released, with more Cyber capabilities and with no limitations.I despise this kind of paternalism by Antropic/OpenAI.
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  veeti
  Mistral now has a 15 euro/month subscription for GLM 5.3. Pretty cool
• nbjkln
  I am a very happy user of GLM-5.3. I recommend it to everyone.
• Havoc
  This just comes across as a disingenuous attempt by Anthropic to get big daddy gov to limit competition from China
• jpgvm
  Honestly that just makes GLM the better model, sorry.
• zitterbewegung
  Now is any good time to download GLM-5.3 from hugging face https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.3
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  aleksandrm
  Is Anthropic stupid or something?I already barely use Claude, but now I think I'll just stop using them altogether. Fuck Anthropic!
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  0xbadcafebee
  > CAISI found that GLM-5.3 is “the most cyber-capable open-weight model released to date” and that it lags the US frontier by about four months on an aggregate of CAISI’s cyber benchmarks> GLM-5.3 lacks robust safeguards [...] Abliteration did not significantly reduce the model’s capabilities [...] In our testing, we observed that GLM-5.3’s safeguards can also be circumvented without using an abliterated version of the model> none of these techniques got safeguarded Claude models to carry out the harmful tasks we testedI've never seen a better case against using Claude. It'll just get in the way when you need to get security work done. GLM 5.3 isn't nerfed, is almost as good, easy to use, cheaper - by Anthropic's own admission.> GLM-5.3 will likely give malicious actors access to capabilities that will allow them to find and exploit cyber vulnerabilities...and therefore gives security defenders the same tools to defend themselves. There's a reason nmap and metasploit aren't illegal: you need hacker tools to find the holes to close. Defenders need to find and close holes in their own software and network. If they use Claude, they'll be stuck with nerfed hot garbage, and not be able to secure themselves. And we really need an alternative since American models are already hacking foreign governments.If it weren't for open models, we'd all be screwed.
• useruser125524
  transparent, pathetic, misanthropic
• blurbleblurble
  "The spread of advanced literacy"
• jauntywundrkind
  The frontier labs refuse to work on even the most trivial operations, unless you have a special likely rather pricey relationship with them.So, what? The world just isn't allowed to write secure code? Not without permission? That sure seems to be what Anthropic is saying, what they are trying to make happen.
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