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- aliljetIt's hard to not see this as a gut punch for OpenAI. They're lead was largely captured by scoring on value (by way of reset after reset) and now they're getting eaten up on price and being bestes and equalled on performance. I'll still pay a premium for Opus 5.5 right now because it's nearly unlimited use, but Google is the quiet sleeping king Everyone is happy to watch everyone else, but I'd wager google burns more tokens through their search product than basically anyone else and now they're just quietly pacing the frontier...
- lhk931122I'm not sure Google can cut in when Claude and ChatGPT already got. I'm using both, but I'll keep track of whether Google can make it good enough for me to use also this Gemini, or cancel one of the two (Claude and ChaGPT) for it.
- mlmonkeyMeanwhile I'm still being offered Gemini 3.1Pro on gemini.google.com :-Dhttps://imgur.com/a/h96yg5tThis is on a $20/mo paid plan :cry:
- jwpapiAlways the last model that gets announced is the best. The labs always know in advance.
- godboxWhat a snooze fest. Another model that does not meaningfully improve on intelligence or price compared to its peers. Google has basically announced that they've "caught up" with the rest. I think they've been doing great work in the Flash department so seeing this is... underwhelming?
- ai-xNote: Google can sell their tokens at cost if they really want to drive out competition, but long term they are better off by everyone making a healthy margin (and Google does a double-dip by also selling compute, services).So, like any optimal game theory move, they are better off not starting a price war
- small_model5 points off Opus 5.5 on AA, not a good release. Falling behind and not able to catchup. Ant probably has opus 6 in the works. Fumbled so hard on this, they should have owned AI.
- yipinwongI am still not sold on Gemini 4 Argon yet from the chart.The price is enticing for cost per tasks, but let's see how it goes.I have montly (cheapy) sub to gemini models and has been underwelming and lowered the tier.
- algoth1The most impressive jump for me is in the low hallucination rate, which is specially impressive given how bad Gemini current models are on this regard
- dangRelated ongoing thread:Gemini 4 Argon - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49913571
- dom96I'd love to run it on my benchmark but alas, Google not making it public prevents this.
- anuragdaramWill have to check what the pricing would be for this model.
- A_D_E_P_TTrading punches in the benchmarks with Mimo v2.6 and 6.1-Sol (both very cheap!), and decidedly inferior to Opus 5.5. I'm afraid this looks unimpressive. Rather comical that they're delaying its launch "for safety reasons".