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  ssivark
  This page doesn't emphasize the cordis architecture [1], but that's the most exciting thing about this -- not just yet another harness. It has the potential to make this into something like the emacs of harnesses! I think this might be particularly potent for long-running agents.[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.25512
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  scuppernong
  https://frontierharness.org/ allegedly this is on the Pareto frontier, though I don't know how good of a benchmark this really is. it seems to focus on one-shot type tasks, whereas the real utility of one harness over another seems to make itself known in long running tasks.also this is a very limited static snapshot with one model as backend, I wish there were more consistently refreshed and diversified harness benchmarks.
• throwa356262
  Still in preview, but I think this update is only meant to simplify the installation process.Not providing DSH as a simple to install package resulted in an unknown third party packaging it with some modifications and SEO the hell out of it to always come on top in Internet searches (even above DS):deepseekharness[.]ioCould be just an ambitious engineer, but could equally easily be ran by cyber criminals or NSA.
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  Kuyawa
  I just installed DeepSeek Harness for MacOS and it's a beast. The same great harness as before but now is an app you just click on your dock to runAll settings and workspaces are transferred so you don't lose anything, the only thing it lacks is a way to increase/decrease font size with cmd + and cmd - so I'll work on a plugin for thatI can't be happierEdit: Asked DSH for a plugin to increase/decrease font and it delivered. Love it. Then asked for a plugin to ring a bell on questions and tasks finished, of course it delivered flawlessly. The same plugin architecture, extensible by the same AI
• hypfer
  The "everything is a plugin" concept is also what the Juggler harness does.I'm not yet sure if it is really sensible long-term, but it is definitely now while we're still trying to figure out what exactly we want and need from LLMs and harnesses.
• wg0
  DeepSeek harness is the OpenCode (better than OpenCode) of the web/desktop medium.Good things about it are that it is extremely lightweight and fast. The communication between sub agents is two way in that a sub agent can midway send a message to parent and the parent can send a message midway to change the course of action of a sub agent and while this is happening, you can sitll continue talking to the model on the main thread.Downside of DeepSeek is that it is constantly in flux which is understandable and they make it very clear themselves that the breaking changes are to be expected.
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  noduerme
  Sweet, I really wanna put backdoors in every account I have access to.
• flohofwoe
  They should probably ask Deepseek to optimize their webpage first before attempting to tackle the desktop...The webpage is a completely unusable stuttery mess on my Android phone (at most 5fps).
• Xunxi
  Interesting! Pretty clean UI.Captcha had me ruffled at the onset as I am slightly visually impaired and couldn't pick out the somewhat grainy images. It seems to be the standard now.
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  proc0
  Anyone know if this works with local models or only the APIs for DeepSeek? I'm assuming it's with the API, but I'm looking for cutting edge local harnesses.
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  StrauXX
  I don't see much of a future for these kinds of intricate harnesses, or harnessing in general for that matter. As models are getting better, harnessing will shrink until they are at the level of vanilla Pi or not even that.
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  quyleanh
  DSH still in preview but works flawlessly. Update also very quick.With the preview of official app, hope team will add remote connection soon.
• d2kx
  It's amazing for a first (desktop) release
• blain
  How can website be this slow, i can barelly scroll down on mobile.
• kindablissy
  China number 1 as always.
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  maelito
  I'm sorry, what is a harness, compared to a complete Web LLm "chat" like Mistral Vibe ?
• dude250711
  A true direct native distillation. The very cutting edge of AI.
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  contravariant
  Maybe this is too late to ask, but what even is a harness?
• anon
  undefined
• jdw64
  very nice harness! good code
• cpursley
  No rustie, no installie. Got enough bloat electron and node bloat, already.
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  ElProlactin
  I wish there was a tool I could use to share my documents, activity, etc. directly with the world's major intelligence agencies.A marketplace, where the different intelligence agencies could evaluate the value of my digital stuff and then offer me something (like a $5 gift card to Olive Garden), would be really nice.
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  Kuyawa
  The original title was "DeepSeek Harness Desktop app for MacOS and Windows"This new title says nothing, we already know deepseek harness from before, this is a new product, an installable app worth differentiating from just "DeepSeek Harness"
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  webXL
  Sigh. Yet another harness...I'd probably check it out if it was actually called 'YAH Harness' and not [insert Chinese AI lab here] Harness
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  jamienk
  My suspicion is that getting a big binary with full permissions is the goal here. Harnesses will only run their companion models and will demand your Contacts list.
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  accountrequired
  The binaries are from china. Your data goes to china. The self-updating plugin system is vulnerable to malicious llm provider. Anyone using this is crazy!