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  brink
  I also have found that AI has not lived up to many of its promises and have dialed back what AI gets control of. My projects were turning into unmaintainable messes. The people who say coding is solved aren't paying attention.
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  sippingabonedry
  Completely performative.You build your OS atop thousands of open source packages, many of which contain AI generated code. Are you going to audit them one by one and remove offending packages? What about the ones you won't remove because the OS would be irreparably broken?
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  lkramer
  I had a PR in flight that got closed because of this. I had an issue with passwords in the network applet for the VPN and had used Claude to help me identify and then come up with a fix. I did spend a lot time handcrafting and making sure the quality was good, but I respect their decision and no hard feelings, but as someone who have struggled to find time and opportunity to contribute to open source it was a small set back.
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  ItsMattyG
  I don't see how this will survive the attacker/defender gap as ls get increasingly good at cyber security and finding 0 days... but maybe it's an obscure enough is it doesn't matter?
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  winrid
  I wonder if the issue is mostly the code or the AI written PRs and people using AI to talk to the maintainers. I personally just ban anyone doing the latter, I don't want to talk to opus more than I already do lol
• YuechenLi
  Ok, this may be controversial, but LLM code tokens aren't free, and I run out of my weekly allowance pretty regularly just from doing some fairly heavy projects, so I don't understand why somebody would ever want to spend their own money to make bad PRs on purpose, and I like to assume good intentions from people unless proven otherwise, which means a near blanket ban for LLM authored code for these big open source projects just seemed a bit extreme to me, when the core issue seemed to be that review process/policy should change with the times.For example, I was helping work on an open-source game engine earlier this year with a longstanding text rendering bug dating back to around 2021 that prevents the engine from being production ready, which the community and myself have developed extensive workaround for. So, one day I've finally said enough and got Claude to debug it. It took Claude 10 minutes to find the bug, it was 3 lines of code change in the renderer (yes, three).So, I wrote up the regression tests, documented the bug and opened up a PR for the fix, thinking it'll get merged in like less than a week and then we can all move on. The maintainers received it fairly well on the PR, but the PR sat there for nearly 6 months, unmerged, until it finally closed from a bad squash upstream. I'm pretty sure the bug is still there too.And as a side note, I would be ecstatic if someone wants to contribute to my Github projects with their AI.
• teekert
  "... many of the AI contributions were not planned and showed little understanding of the software architecture. So the team wants to "prioritize working on contributions from our own team and regular contributors.""Sounds reasonable, even to avid LLM users, I suppose. You have to draw a line. This line is too simplistic, but it'll work, for now.
• yegle
  This would just push people to maintain their own fork. If I already have an agent to investigate and fix a bug and able to send a PR, the added cost of maintaining a local fork is minimum.In fact I've start doing that myself. Sending PR and convincing the maintainer why the fix is necessary is just too much effort.
• VCFundedGenYer
  Thank god. Tired of these orgs blindly and stupidly allowing them (Debian, cough).
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  sdcfgy
  Same trouble we have. Some clever person says to use AI agents for code review. 100kloc commit got flagged through on Friday. Taking this week off. Not my circus.Faith is the problem. Extraordinary claims must stand up to scrutiny. They do not.
• anon
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• onesandofgrain
  As they should. If you can tell it's AI, it shouldnt be part of any codebase.
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  holoduke
  Doing that will put you put of the market. I am certain of that.
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  zzzeek
  banning AI from PRs because you're swamped with too many low quality PRs, definitely. We pretty much are doing this with SQLAlchemy. If I'm going to have a small fix or improvement coded by an LLM (which I do all the time), I want to prompt the LLM directly, rather than having someone trying to pad their resume forward my communications onto their LLM via PRs. What's the point of that?
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  mahboi
  I still wanna see what Slop OS looks like. Go full AI spam making a Linux distro from the kernel up.
• iluvcommunism
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• whatsThisBtn4
  Well this project is dead then.I have a hard time knowing if anti AI is a mental illness or propaganda coming out of China.Unironically.Separately, why would anyone use a Debian based desktop OS? Your $11 Amazon mouse won't work. An Nvidia card won't work. Just use Fedora.