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• bayindirh
  Just today I have thought about how in the olden days "Open" meant "we have a SDK you can buy for exorbitant amount of money to talk with our closed device or software".You also had to sacrifice half your blood, first and second newborn to be able to sign that NDA required to buy a couple of zip archives, which contained a Frankestein assembly of files, folders and a README.TXT file.
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  kennywinker
  I understand the sticklers who are annoyed at people using open weight and open source interchangeably, but it misses some nuance. A common refrain I see is "it's like saying a shareware app is open source!" - that's just wrong.Open source means you can modify, rebuild, and re-distribute the code and the resulting app. Open weights you can do two of those things - you can modify and re-distributed. They can't be re-built, since you're missing the original training data - but they are a form of open that exists somewhere between open source and closed source. Derivative works are allowed, but the source material isn't available.I don't see people complaining about creative commons licensed images or audio being "not real open source", and open weight models seem about the same as that to me.
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  srmatto
  I am glad people still take the time to put stuff like this up on the internet.
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  sks_15
  Given the cost of .ai domains, this is a pretty expensive joke.
• xd1936
  Excellent. Love that the Github link in the footer goes to a private (or non-existent) repo.
• patcon
  STS Paper: 50 Shades of Open (2016) https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Fifty_Shades_of_Open
• hoherd
  While I totally agree, there is precedent. HP OpenView came out in 1987, which was 11 years before the term "Open Source" became a thing.
• ProblemExplorer
  OpenFatigue is a game changer. It's truly Open and Elon agrees, so its true.I'm surprised about the lack of Elon's approval on the site. Maybe because it's spanking new and he's just too busy running 20 companies at the same time?I showed OpenFatigue to my manager who has an MBA from Harvard. She fed the website into Claude, ChatGPT, and Grok immediately before the last of the letter "e" could even leave by mouth. The three bots concured: This is a game changer - the ultimate solution we have been waiting for. The missing link.Three bots concurring isn't a mistake, it's a guarantee. Human review is suboptimal at that level of agreement. The probability that all three bots were making the same mistake was astronomically low.In a flash of inspiration, she then asked Claude, ChatGPT, and Grok to write quick, precise emails in a technical format and Slack, Teams messages to blast to her superiors to bring this crucial discovery to their immediate attention. Within a minute of those messages, their agents responded, concurring that yes, indeed, this was worth paying attention to. Worth setting up an in person meeting in the big meeting room reserved for tactical management brainstorming sessions.Within five minutes, the Big Tactical meeting room was reserved, swamped with all the high-level executives typing furiously into their keyboards, to their AI agents, asking for what they should do next, how to react and integrate this fascinating discovery into the company's ~AI~ SI fuelled workflows.I eavesdropped, hoping to pass off as an IT technician dropping by to ensure the ~AI~ SI powered cameras were at peak performance, worthy of the meeting of minds about to take place.My manager looked at me and I froze. She might blow my cover - after all, I had been her direct report for 3 years now, ever since she joined the company fresh off her MBA to manage all the software engineers. 5 years ago, my employer used to hire 1 maanger with an MBA per 10 engineers. In the age of ~AI~ SI though, all you need is 1 ~AI~ SI powered manager with an MBA to manage 100 engineers. Her GrokBot creates 150 tickets on JIRA a day, every workday and another GrokBot personally follows up on every engineer to figure out why didn't they close atleast 10 tickets. Are there blockers?She asked me if she knew me, and I said unlikely, because I just had an MBA from University of Phoenix. She smirked dismissively, and asked me to be the scribe for the meeting in case the ~AI~ SI agent hallucinated again. I nodded. I couldn't risk her bot opening another JIRA ticket and asking for my name to put as the assignee. There couldn't be an audit trail documenting my transgressions.The first slide was whether to reallocate token spend from all the engineers to OpenFatigue instead. My heart stopped ...
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  nitroedge
  Bottom Github link doesn't work, just as a heads up
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  nxobject
  But can I also get an app that replaces "Open" with "Butt"?
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  kazinator
  The recency bias here is thick! Let's rewind a bit to the 80s and 90s to extend the scope of the fatigue:OpenLook (closed-source 1980s Unix desktop)The Open Group (oligarchy of Unix vendors organized around a proprietary standard)X/Open, Open Software Foundation (OSF) (Groups that merged to form The Open Group)OpenStep (Proprietary software covered by a commercial EULA from NeXT)OpenGL, OpenMAX, ...You've inherited OpenFatigue from your dad!More:In the Lisp world, Open Genera.OpenDOC, OpenVMS, OpenType, ...
• Kuyawa
  "OpenOpen announces it will become ClosedOpen for safety reasons" :-D
• dvh
  If it doesn't know it hallucinates the result:Verdict for “Dhvhj3d”:Open Weights™Openness score: 22%Weights downloadable after 3 forms No training data Acceptable Use Policy longer than the model card
• CharlieDigital
  The "Raise a seed round in one click" part got a nice chuckle out of me.Well played.
• rory_h_r
  Open Pro is the "Most Open". I love it!
• willguest
  my new cologne, based on a mix of spices imported from Sri Lanka in the late 1930 was not recognised. I'm appalled that 'Ceylon Musk' was not considered more open, a mere 12%...
• flaxxer
  don't forget: https://openreceive.org/
• depworker
  If you read open that much it looks even weirder. What will be the next fashion tech word?
• hmokiguess
  was going to make a joke with open sesame and found out there's a real thing using it https://www.opensesame.com/
• TomGarden
  Brilliant. Laughed out loud
• nelaggy
  according to this, claude is open weights
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  deaton
  Well, that website has successfully made "Open" feel like a fake, made up word to me. It is quite... something how a word that once meant "this project is FOSS" now just means "we like this word"
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