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  Aurornis
  The sub-headline adds important context:> U.S. still top destination as desire to migrate falls worldwideSo the US is still the top destination by a wide margin. Part of the decline is attributable to a global drop in desire to migrate at all.Recent politics is undoubtedly part of it, but if you assumed the US had fallen behind other countries you should probably read the article.
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  happosai
  The only proven method of stopping immigration to your country: make your country such a shit hole nobody wants to move to it.
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  Ritewut
  I'm trying to get out of the US but every other country is also having their own anti-immigration moment right now.
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  wolvoleo
  Yeah I would never ever move there. I had an offer just before Corona but naaah. The only reason I applied is that they advertised it as a local job at first.While this administration is in place I don't even want to visit, even for work purposes I refuse. Especially the toxic manosphere culture at the moment.I've lived in 4 countries but the US is not one that appeals to me. They pay the most but cost of living is also huge and besides that money isn't the most important to me. I'm making about 60% of what I would make in the same role in my home country. But that's ok because I enjoy living here a lot more.What matters to me is quality of life, and a good social welfare system so I don't have to worry.
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  k__
  Isn't that what the US wants? I mean, at least this ICE stuff happened doesn't seem very inviting.
• rayiner
  Gallup does this survey regularly, and I think perhaps the most interesting thing on the chart is how few people in south and east asia (around 10%) want to leave even if they had the opportunity to do so. I think that says something about the psychology of people who do leave their countries.
• throwaway_new_1
  I’d say majority of the population that this is looking at falls into 3 categories : developing to developed nation, developed to developed, developing to developing.Most people from developing to developed probably still are interested. Their interests may have shifted to better visa opportunities.But those from developed to developed has probably decreased cause of job security problems globally in developed countries. People probably don’t want to leave their current state in this market.The developing to developing is probably the same.
• glimshe
  They could also have phrased that as "Ability to move Permanently to U.S. for those who want to is at New Low"
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  mvcosta91
  The only way I’d ever set foot in the US is if Brazil decided to extradite me. Luckily, we don't extradite our own citizens.
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  bryanlarsen
  I'm surprised that "Northern America" was only 4% in 2024. It feels like a huge percentage of Canadians used to move to America. Maybe everybody who wanted to move already has?
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  bryanlarsen
  Looks like Matthew Yglesias's dream of 1 billion Americans is impossible now.
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  binklee
  Shows a lot what Europe thinks of the US. I'm surprised though that people from South Asia who would like to move permanently to another country also have a low vote for the US.
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  rglover
  It's a disaster here. It should be of zero surprise that people don't want to move here (let alone invest their future).
• drnick1
  Good, very good.
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  Daishiman
  Not just that but the people who change their opinion the most are generally those with excellent education and job opportunities elsewhere.
• mikkelam
  idunno. Nothing is ever gonna replace america.America's cultured is ingrained in everyone. You have 2-3 more runs of trumpian presidents before it's gg
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  caaqil
  > U.S. still top destination as desire to migrate falls worldwide> But despite these changes, many people worldwide — an estimated 900 million — would like to move, including about 134 million who would prefer to move to the U.S.Important caveats.
• js8
  How can people today even think they can "move to the U.S. permanently"? U.S. is even considering stripping citizenship from its own citizens. It's very impermanent.
• cmiles8
  Like most things there’s broader context:1. The US is still the top desired place to move by a large margin2. There a variety of evidence to suggest that this also splits by tier of talent. For the best of the best the desire to move to the US remains strong. What has clearly attenuated is the lower tiers, with the crackdown on H1Bs and other areas there’s clearly fewer lower tier talent folks flooding in. That’s impacting tech masters degree mill type folks. but ultimately not a terrible thing as that system has been broken for a while.
• EcommerceFlow
  This is excellent for us Americans. As LLMs and Robotics scale, the need for immigration will continue to drop.
• testbjjl
  It’s always good when we all don’t want the same things. I expect to see a lot more doom and gloom headlines of the midterm elections go as predicted, but anticipate quality of life increasing for us non billionaires as well.
• nailer
  I moved recently. I previously moved to the UK fifteen years ago. It's great here, people are very welcoming to immigrants and have been kind all over NY, Georgia, and Miami.- NY has a great tech scene, it feels slightly healthier than SF but FAR more ambitious and supportive than London does. Also London investors are incredibly flaky.- Street violence is an issue (in NYC), but phone theft and terrorism are not.- My gym has a good out-of-the-gym social scene which has made it easy to meet people.
• ck2
  Heritage Foundation wants to reduce the US population by 11 million people by 2029imaging what's going down just before/during the Olympics which I am 99% certain will be boycotted by then
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  PorciiVorbesc
  Can I have your spot then?
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  pessimizer
  More of this. There seems to be a lot of resentment that people dream of living in the US all their lives, but then when they finally arrive the red carpet sometimes isn't rolled out for them, and many people aren't happy they're here.It's better for them to lose the fantasy. It's a brain drain on the world, and an excuse for the US not to educate its own properly.
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  bluecalm
  USA makes it very hard to immigrate legally so probably many people don't express "desire" to immigrate there because that's not even an option for them.
• Izikiel43
  Having dealt with the us immigration system, and even in an easy case, it’s not an easy thing to do.Hopefully people get more informed on how hard it is to apply and don’t waste their lives on it, as a lot of them won’t get legal residency, or it might take several long years.And this applies in general to most countries, specialized educated professionals are wanted, not poor people.
• nadermx
  Perhaps for once people realize its a shit show everywhere
• dominotw
  a big maga contingent wanted high interest rates to lower desire to for immigration into country also rollback lax visa and dei policies.they got their wish.
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  binlog
  The irony is that restrictive immigration policies designed to keep out "low quality" immigrants are only going to stop the flow of skilled ones who have better options at home or elsewhere. People who are desperate will continue to immigrate no matter what.
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  greenchair
  still on top, nuff said.
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  heybales
  In other news, desire to move permanently FROM the U.S. at a new high.