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- TrackerFFSo if I followed the story, it as GRU (Russian intel) that hacked his phone. Dutch intel then recruited a spy from GRU that handed over the data.In any case, Kushner - and rightfully so - could not obtain a security clearance the first time around, due to massive debt. But it was overruled / waived by higher ups.I've worked in intel, and Kushner seems like the textbook example - a cautionary tale - on the type of person you do not want to grant anything of importance.Honestly it sort of blows my mind that the US has a system decisions by security professionals can simply be overruled.
- BatteryMountainAs an outsider, ever since I learned some things about the trump family and kushner ten years ago, he always stood out for me as the most interesting and dangerous character of the lot. Always in the background, never front and center, always making high stakes decisions, wielding power of large amounts of money, sitting in more important meetings than trump (in my opinion). Literally whenever anything happens regarding trump's/usa/global issues, I always ask myself, where is kushner, where is he involved? He gives me the same feeling as observing a young putin from 30 years ago, same power dynamics at play. Interesting person nonetheless.
- tclancy“Kushner’s counsel, however, said Kushner did not make any agreements or arrangements with leaders or officials in foreign countries that were not agreed to by the President of the United States and in the best interests of the United States.” This is all categorically untrue and besides, I had permission.
- rollulusThe Dutch hacking Russian hackers sounds like a regular day for them, like last time when they even got access to the security cams in the hackers office: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/01/dutch...The Dutch intelligence services are world class.
- DivingForGoldWarning you - - - This is a Juicy One ...https://wallhop.io/https://www.vanityfair.com/story/jared-ku...
- everdriveWhy wouldn't they? Only a deeply stupid world leader would carry their phone with them all the time, or conduct any sort of business on it.My understanding is that the current crop of politicians is terrified of FOIA requests, and so pushes as much to their phones as possible. You can't FOIA many of the apps on there.This is a cowardly practice. These officials are either overtly cowards, or they are too stupid to understand that their phones are targets for foreign intelligence agencies.
- apexalphaMight as well post the actual article: https://www.vanityfair.com/story/jared-kushner-hacked-phone-...
- m000It's probably the first time I'm glad to hear about a government hacking into someone's phone.
- dansloGRU hacked Jared Kushner's phone and Dutch intelligence infiltrated them.
- dzogchenI feel like the headline here should be different.
- nxobjectHey, according to the Snowden leaks, what’s a little spying among friends?
- sp4cec0wb0yAllegedly. What happened to accurate titles on this website?
- 233mhzIt's over for the US they will never wake up no matter how bad things get. It's so comically bad you'd imagine the so called well-regulated militia would have intervened by now
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- joecool1029Required watching for more on the extreme Kushner family corruption, I see other comments going on about his father-in-law, why not learn how fucked up his father is as well: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-xT3ilk51c
- gskyMAGA crowd never sees truth
- carschno“What was odd, the source said, was that the money in the account—hundreds of millions of dollars—had come from a bank in Azerbaijan. Most importantly, Kushner appeared to have transferred significant amounts of money from the Dubai account to other individuals, including a warlord, a mercenary, and a one-time hit man,” Cole wrote.
- fjfaaseI am a bit surpriced so many people are accepting everything to be true on face value. It is from a chapter of a book that an author hoped to make a lot of money from. How reliable is he or his sources. The MIVD is not know to share any information and leaking can land you in jail for up to 8 years.
- raszHopefully Ukraine got a copy to help dealing with those dildos. Dutch could name the file MH17.zip. Money transfers thru Azerbaijan are from russia.
- kipropingExcellent story, the bigger picture IMO is that Jared is being thrown out to the wolves. Not sure by who. Preparation for when/if house/senate flips? Also why would the Dutch intelligence expose Kushner and thus Trump? Trump will be on their case very soon.
- ameliusNon-Twitter/X version here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50206177
- ChrisArchitect[dupe] Discussion on source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50201259
- MadrasTh0rnPut Kushner in prison
- mitxelaEvery government spies on every other government with every available tool. Even allied ones. (Especially Israel, because it has a really good spy agency)
- shin_laoUnsubstantiated story from Vanity Fair.
- ck2also see from yesterday:* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50201259
- secondcomingThe Dutch Intelligence services seem to be really good.I recall they helped the UK during the Falklands War with SIGINT/cryptanalytic stuff
- throwaway2521Dual loyalty.
- shevy-javaThe scarier thought is that the russian government did not even have to do that - agent Krasnov works for them as-is.Europeans should not trust any of that team: it is a compromised government.The irony is that Yuri explained this already in the 1980s:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0It was a literal prediction of the KGB seizing power. Putin is from the KGB clique. Gorbachev really should have neutered the KGB totally.
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- klappgrtAnd the first shown comment is Jared Kushner calling the claims categorically false. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯