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Hacker reverses Samsung TV, finds on-board AI listening OpenAI account suspended

Hacker reverses Samsung TV, finds on-board AI listening OpenAI account suspended

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Comments (72)

  • fn-mote
    As far as I can tell, there is no write up. This is a reddit post with screenshots of a Twitter/X post by @log4j. Even the Twitter post doesn’t seem informative, but Reddit isn’t a source for the information by any means.The original link was on HN two days ago with no traction.https://twitter.com/log4j/status/2113014142600953868
  • jck86
    To what extend do these "smart" products state how, when and what data they are collecting and selling?Isn't it high time for legislation that at least makes it clear on the box what kind of sensors and integrations it has and how bad the product is privacy wise?Also, shouldn't corporate spying disguised as automated content recognition and classification be limited or outright be banned?And all this connected garbage should by law be able to function with the cord cut and without registration, and if an update negatively changes the advertised product characteristics the customer must be allowed to return it for full paid price even if it is 10 years old. Force the manufactures to make statements on the "box" about the features, the support duration and level, and the privacy characteristics.Why don't politicians care about this?
  • MisterMunchkin
    Remember guys, if they are reading it for wrongthink, they are reading it for industrial espionage.Anthropic and openAI just announced they’re spinning out competitors to their biggest customers… right after ingesting all of their IP and contracts. Do the math.(Or don’t, because they’ve been caught stealing math research)
  • tintor
    This looks very bad on OpenAI.What is next? Power and water company suspending your account if your home and car are not streaming enough telemetry.I am glad that open models are closing on frontier.
  • 3abiton
    This is again will be very funny race to watch. Right now you can fairly do lots of reverse enginnering or "hacking" with off the shelf Chinese models, and they are very capable (GLM3 for example) which can be run locally if you stomach the hardware. Tools like rea are also becoming more popular. If openai continues to be pedantic, they will lose the technical base given how close is the gap getting.
  • luma
    Dog bark and baby crying detection are advertised features for SmartThings integrations. Door bell and door knocking are also included, this is surfaced directly if you hook the TV or sound bar into SmartThings.
  • ada-h00k
    If OpenAI really banned him for that reason, that would be pretty stupid. If you can no longer use an LLM for reverse engineering without worrying about your account, that drastically reduces its value.
  • tkel
    from his twitter account:> if your samsung TV model doesnt have a microphone, it will look for connected devices with one, such as a soundbar or a connected bluetooth device. this gets shipped off to bixby.
  • antirez
    "Why you bother about local AI? LOL with the $ you spend for <insert hardware here> you can buy 5 years of 20x account". Yeah. 5 years where you are told what you can do.
  • nickdothutton
    This is why you buy a display panel and not a smart TV.
  • Hugsun
    I'm curious if someone has started cataloging these cases. These spying TVs seem like a common industry practice.
  • HelloUsername
  • Geof25
    Claude Code for coding and DeepSeek + opencode for reverse engineering at this point.DeepSeek will break the binary into code and Claude will search for problems. Now you have most of exploitation chain.
  • zkmon
    Just don't buy any tech home appliance that was made after 2022.
  • aussieguy1234
    The AI in the TV was listening for dogs barking and babys crying, a gross invasion of privacy. Possibly this could have been for ad targeting purposes.With projects like REA, it's going to get harder and harder for companies to get away with things like this.I'd love to see the major social media apps reverse engineered and analyzed in this way. I can only imagine the dodgy practices that'll be found if this happens.
  • kjsingh
    so is the hardware mic-off button on Samsung TV any good?
  • anthk
    No libre agents and LLM's?
  • Den_VR
    The tile references on-board ai. “On-board ai” here is automatic content recognition. Imagine my disappointment
  • znpy
    so glad i bought a dumb tv.i remember going store to store in search of one.gg me, that was a smart move.
  • ivyBadger920
    [flagged]
  • midtake
    What a load of shit. Samsung TV always listening if you enable listening, why would they do this? /sHow dare they run a classifier locally on the TV, they should upload it uncut to Czechia like Amazon did with their ring cameras!