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  ValentineC
  If Automattic funded the PHP Foundation with 8% of their revenue [1], like what Matt Mullenweg asked from companies using WordPress [2], the PHP Foundation would have lots of money.[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Wordpress/comments/1g6qi8i/automatt...[2] https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/12/automattic-planned-to-targ...
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  bwoebi
  The actual work expenses of the PHP foundation can be viewed here:https://opencollective.com/phpfoundation/transactions?search... and https://opencollective.com/php-foundation-eur/transactions?s...(seems like "work" selects most of that)And it's not cheap to pay that many people, especially not full time (which is partly why they don't have more full-time contractors). According to https://opencollective.com/phpfoundation#category-BUDGET they only have a balance $350k currently, sinking.It'd be really awesome, if more companies would sponsor the PHP foundation (especially with thousands or tens of thousands of dollars per year. A lot of small contributions is nice, but not enough.). The work of a few core maintainers is really crucial to the continued development of PHP.
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  grokys
  And then people complain about "bait and switch " or "pulling the rug" when an OSS project becomes successful and tries to fund itself in some way. "But that should be free" shouts everyone. I'm increasingly coming around to the idea that OSS was the biggest swindle the corporations managed to pull off.
• matteoraso
  This has long been an issue with open source projects.[0] If it were up to me, the government (any government) would fund every important project out there. It would be very cheap, and the payoff will be enormous.[0]https://www.fordfoundation.org/learning/library/research-rep...
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  sam_lowry_
  She says the full-time member is herself, and looking at her Linkedin (in/elizabethn) she isn't exactly the person who would patch PHP for the two CVEs.
• rcleveng
  Agreed the budgets doens't seem like a lot, I wonder if in addition to some companies that make a lot of money using PHP funding a little, there are some opportunities to use grants or free services for nonprofits?I noticed bills for both Workspace and GitHub (admittedly small amounts for Workspace, less small for GitHub)https://www.google.com/nonprofits/eligibility/https://github.com/solutions/industry/nonprofits
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  lwansbrough
  Just hold a public yes/no vote on changing licensing to something paid, and charge $10 to vote no.
• dingdingdang
  Come on Facebook/Zuckerberg, set them up with a structured fund that is invested in s&p500 or something equivalent/better and allows them to pay a handful of devs and a person to admin them (all surplus can be earmarked to go to charity to avoid the sinkhole of bureaucracy from a larger org). Would set the PHP Foundation up for life and the whole world would be better off as a result, smallish directed investment with huge payout from a value perspective.
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  abroszka33
  Not surprising at all. There are no incentives for anyone to contribute. And why would there be in this financial system?
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  Hamuko
  The solution is obvious: pour trillions of dollars into Anthropic and OpenAI, and security will trickle down.
• aaron695
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• pmlnr
  xkcd 2347 again, what a surprise. Oh, wait, there's at least one paid person, that should be something /s
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  smashers1114
  Presumably it makes sense to sunset PHP especially with how cheap code migrations are nowadays.